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Forget the usb-c dongle issues, my main concern is the magsafe lock. How could something so fundamental like that be removed?

lloeki 7y ago
I’r rather be able to change the cord as I see fit and use any spec compliant charger than be tied to MagSafe chargers that get chewed on by the cat and have the cord get shorter and shorter as I cut and solder a new section. To each his own. (BTW you can get MagSafe clips for USB-C, which is a testament to this standard’s modularity)
cletus 7y ago
Thickness was, I believe, a factor in this. As in MagSafe 2 came about (over MagSafe 1) to reduce the depth of the socket as well as it's thickness. Many seem to have forgotten that MagSafe 2 was actually worse than the first one (eg it would fall out on its own more).
eridius 7y ago
It was removed because MagSafe was quite literally the #1 source of hardware failure on those machines. It was worth it when it prevented the machine itself from taking a fatal tumble, but with power ports available on both sides of the laptop (as well as increased battery life), MagSafe is no longer worth it. If you're really intent on it, Griffin sells a MagSafe USB-C adapter - https://griffintechnology.com/breaksafe-magnetic-usb-c-power-cable https://griffintechnology.com/breaksafe-magnetic-usb-c-power...
- asdff 7y ago
  Was it really that bad? The only time I had it fail computer-side was when I noticed a staple on the magnet. The charger itself is shit, but that's a problem with Apple's shitty wire shielding and I'm sure their USB-C charger will also split open, fray, and break every 2 years of regular use.
  - eridius 7y ago
    Yeah it was. My understanding is the biggest single driver of non-accidental-damage AppleCare issues was the MagSafe charger no longer charging. I personally had that issue multiple times with MagSafe laptops, where it would get to the point of needing a lot of jigging and detaching/reattaching for it to start charging, and more than once I didn't even realize it wasn't charging until I got the "your computer is about to run out of power" dialog.

lloeki 7y ago

I’r rather be able to change the cord as I see fit and use any spec compliant charger than be tied to MagSafe chargers that get chewed on by the cat and have the cord get shorter and shorter as I cut and solder a new section. To each his own. (BTW you can get MagSafe clips for USB-C, which is a testament to this standard’s modularity)

cletus 7y ago

Thickness was, I believe, a factor in this. As in MagSafe 2 came about (over MagSafe 1) to reduce the depth of the socket as well as it's thickness. Many seem to have forgotten that MagSafe 2 was actually worse than the first one (eg it would fall out on its own more).

eridius 7y ago

It was removed because MagSafe was quite literally the #1 source of hardware failure on those machines. It was worth it when it prevented the machine itself from taking a fatal tumble, but with power ports available on both sides of the laptop (as well as increased battery life), MagSafe is no longer worth it. If you're really intent on it, Griffin sells a MagSafe USB-C adapter - https://griffintechnology.com/breaksafe-magnetic-usb-c-power-cable https://griffintechnology.com/breaksafe-magnetic-usb-c-power...

asdff 7y ago
Was it really that bad? The only time I had it fail computer-side was when I noticed a staple on the magnet. The charger itself is shit, but that's a problem with Apple's shitty wire shielding and I'm sure their USB-C charger will also split open, fray, and break every 2 years of regular use.
- eridius 7y ago
  Yeah it was. My understanding is the biggest single driver of non-accidental-damage AppleCare issues was the MagSafe charger no longer charging. I personally had that issue multiple times with MagSafe laptops, where it would get to the point of needing a lot of jigging and detaching/reattaching for it to start charging, and more than once I didn't even realize it wasn't charging until I got the "your computer is about to run out of power" dialog.