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A 14 inch Thinkpad X1 Carbon is as light, has the same thickness, all the ports you need, double the processing power, AND has a really good long travel keayboa
by srrr 7y ago
A 14 inch Thinkpad X1 Carbon is as light, has the same thickness, all the ports you need, double the processing power, AND has a really good long travel keayboard.
Maybe Apple made a compromise. But if other companies can build the same laptop without compromise Apple must do better.
- cletus 7y agoIt also has serious quality issues [1]. I've seen the X1 and it's nice but, honestly, I've yet to see anything that compares to the Macbook tracpad, even the latest one that fakes haptic feedback. [1] https://www.tomshardware.com/news/lenovo-laptop-quality-control-issues,37510.html https://www.tomshardware.com/news/lenovo-laptop-quality-cont...
- srrr 7y agoMaybe. I do not have these problems. But if something happens I am sure Lenovo will honor my 3 year on site support contract with them. I don't have to send the notebook to them and I don't have to go to a genius bar with an appointment. They just come to me this or the next day and fix the problem. You can always get a bad device. Happened to me with a faulty MacBook Display too. What matters in this case is the service contract you have with the manufacturer. And some companies have stellar service if you pay for it.
- rayiner 7y agoI've got an X1 carbon that developed bad pixels. (Anecdata I know, but I've never had an Apple device, out of more tha na dozen over a decade, with a bad screen, while every Lenovo machine I've ever had, five now, has some level of bad Q&A with the screen, usually backlight bleed.) They replaced the panel on-site, which was good, but not the bezel (which is a sticker and is now peeling off slightly from having been peeled off and reattached).
- cturner 7y agoThe macbook (not air) is a bit over ten percent lighter than the x1. I don't think it is worth it, for reasons you name, and run x1s myself. Still, Apple does offer the lightest ultrabook on the market, and it may derive from the nasty keyboard tradeoff.
- srrr 7y agoFor the Macbook the keyboard and ports might be a good tradeoff and it is indeed a marvelous little machine. But I would not compare a X1 to a MacBook because the X1 has a 4 Core CPU and is actively cooled. It sits somewhere between the Air and 13 inch Pro.
- Rebelgecko 7y agoI'm not quite sure quite how ultrabook is defined, but if something like the GPD MicroPC counts, it weights about half of what the Macbook does (400 grams vs 920 grams), while also having way more ports (HDMI, ethernet, micro-SD, 3 USB-A , USB-C, and a serial port). Granted GPD devices are kind of weird and not directly comparable to a Macbook— it's probably the only laptop keyboard worse than Apple's current one, and the trackpad isn't in the same league as Apple's.
- asdff 7y agoAt what point does the difference in weight become entirely irrelevant? Is a 3lb laptop vs a 2lb laptop even within the margin of error of how heavy a backpack feels? That's gotta be close to the weight difference of whether or not I had lunch a given day.
- rifung 7y agoThe MBP has a far superior screen and touchpad though. The touchpad on the X1 Carbon didn't have good palm detection either, at least on Linux. Also the MBP just feels much more premium. I had an X1 Carbon for work and when I used it on my lap the keyboard would randomly stop working. I realized this was because it didn't work if the laptop was only supported on the back part.