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Definitely this is not going away. I might make this a premium feature though. I'm NOT tracking anything private. I'm tracking things like whether you're cli

Definitely this is not going away. I might make this a premium feature though. I'm NOT tracking anything private. I'm tracking things like whether you're clicking a button or not. This is how you're paying for the app. I literally CAN NOT build Polar without this data. > I appreciate that you are up front about it, but the attitude that you are entitled to my usage data The reverse is true as well. I wrote this app for free. You're not entitled to use it unless you run the analytics because that's how you're paying for it. I'm using your usage to improve the product. If it has an exception or is slow on your platform I want to know about it. If you're literally providing nothing of value in return I'm not interested in those types of users. I'm going to write a blog post about this but this perspective is completely wrong headed. You should be BEGGING developers to track your usage of the app as it greatly improves app design and reduces the cost of developing the app. Cohort analysis ALONE has been a gods send in developing Polar.

donttrackmebro 8y ago
> I wrote this app for free. You're not entitled to use it unless you run the analytics because that's how you're paying for it. Of course, I'm saying I would have loved to pay for it with money instead. > If it has an exception or is slow on your platform I want to know about it. You don't have to collect data behind my back to get that information. You could for example offer a way to review the information that is going to be sent, and let me decide for myself if it is too private to share. I would even prefer that to a blanket "opt out" for all the reasons you are saying. > You should be BEGGING developers to track your usage of the app as it greatly improves app design and reduces the cost of developing the app. I have never had the experience of seeing an application dramatically improved by forcing tracking on me. Usually it's been a sign that everything is about to become worse. I'm perfectly happy to participate in opt-in tracking and submit crash reports, especially when I can see for myself there is nothing sensitive included. I'm also technical enough to help with investigating more complex bugs and an avid contributor to open source. Please don't think that everyone who is privacy-conscious has nothing of value to offer you as a user.
pwg 8y ago
> > I appreciate that you are up front about it, but the attitude that you are entitled to my usage data > The reverse is true as well. I wrote this app for free. You're not entitled to use it unless you run the analytics because that's how you're paying for it. Then you really should add a License file specific for polar (you only seem to have imported license files for electron, chromium, and two resource modules) clearly stating this limitation. Note the below comments are based on what was found in the tar.gz on github. Right now, with no license file directed at Polar, it is ambiguous as to what limitations surrounding use/sharing exist. And, three of your license files (electron and the two modules that leaked in) are the MIT licence, where one is granted rights to: (quote) ... deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, ... subject to the following conditions: The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software. (end quote) So if one interprets the ambiguity of Polar's license status such that the three imported MIT files likely apply to Polar, then you have no stated restriction which matches your restriction of "no use, unless you give me google analytics".

donttrackmebro 8y ago

> I wrote this app for free. You're not entitled to use it unless you run the analytics because that's how you're paying for it. Of course, I'm saying I would have loved to pay for it with money instead. > If it has an exception or is slow on your platform I want to know about it. You don't have to collect data behind my back to get that information. You could for example offer a way to review the information that is going to be sent, and let me decide for myself if it is too private to share. I would even prefer that to a blanket "opt out" for all the reasons you are saying. > You should be BEGGING developers to track your usage of the app as it greatly improves app design and reduces the cost of developing the app. I have never had the experience of seeing an application dramatically improved by forcing tracking on me. Usually it's been a sign that everything is about to become worse. I'm perfectly happy to participate in opt-in tracking and submit crash reports, especially when I can see for myself there is nothing sensitive included. I'm also technical enough to help with investigating more complex bugs and an avid contributor to open source. Please don't think that everyone who is privacy-conscious has nothing of value to offer you as a user.

pwg 8y ago

> > I appreciate that you are up front about it, but the attitude that you are entitled to my usage data > The reverse is true as well. I wrote this app for free. You're not entitled to use it unless you run the analytics because that's how you're paying for it. Then you really should add a License file specific for polar (you only seem to have imported license files for electron, chromium, and two resource modules) clearly stating this limitation. Note the below comments are based on what was found in the tar.gz on github. Right now, with no license file directed at Polar, it is ambiguous as to what limitations surrounding use/sharing exist. And, three of your license files (electron and the two modules that leaked in) are the MIT licence, where one is granted rights to: (quote) ... deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, ... subject to the following conditions: The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software. (end quote) So if one interprets the ambiguity of Polar's license status such that the three imported MIT files likely apply to Polar, then you have no stated restriction which matches your restriction of "no use, unless you give me google analytics".