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> If there's real fear of flying on them then 737 MAX flights will be cheaper and A320/757/etc. flights will be more expensive Have you noticed how when you b

> If there's real fear of flying on them then 737 MAX flights will be cheaper and A320/757/etc. flights will be more expensive Have you noticed how when you buy the ticket there's no mention of the plane you'll actually fly in and no guarantee that it won't be swapped 45 minutes before takeoff? I'm saying that looking from a different perspective. As a tall person I would rather fly in planes I know to have better leg room or where I can pick an emergency exit seat. So many times the plane was changed just before boarding and my "emergency exit seat" turned into a regular cramped one because of the different seating arrangement. So I'll be skeptic of the fact that the market can actually support tickets prices based on the plane model. Unless an airline guarantees the plane model you book your flight on or exclusively uses a specific model then pricing based on the plane used is about as achievable as pricing based on the revision of circuit breakers used in the cockpit.

BenjiWiebe 8y ago
Every time I've bought tickets it has shown me what plane I'll be flying in for each leg of the trip, and so far they've never switched planes on me either. Sample size is ~10.
- doingmyting 8y ago
  You dont even need to purchase first. If you search Kayak, JetBlue, Delta etc right now and expand the block for an available flight it shows you the equipment. Its an extra step that am not sure most will follow but its there
rjsw 8y ago
There are airlines that have an Airbus only fleet, easyJet for example.
- close04 8y ago
  "Airbus only" fleet in easyJet's case means Airbus A319-100, Airbus A320-200, Airbus A320neo, and Airbus A321neo. A Boeing only fleet could have 737NG and 737MAX. This doesn't help if you are completely against flying in the MAX.
  - doingmyting 8y ago
    I think the point was that youre guaranteed to not fly in the MAX if you go with an airline with an airbus only fleet
    - close04 8y ago
      Good point. But then you wouldn't really avoid "737MAX" you'd be avoiding "Boeing". If the price increase theory is correct then you'd end up paying a lot more since you restrict the options of planes a lot more.
moftz 8y ago
Google Flights shows the make and model of the plane. Sometimes the actual airline webpage doesn't though so I use the info from Google to check seatguru since the airlines usually have pretty terrible seat selection charts.
sokoloff 8y ago
> Have you noticed how when you buy the ticket there's no mention of the plane I haven't noticed that. I can't recall ever booking a ticket on a carrier where the [scheduled] plane type wasn't readily available to me before purchasing. Typically looking at the seat map or details of the flight will show you the type (and sub-type). I wouldn't buy a ticket on a site that didn't preview that information. I just checked the major legacy US carriers and Delta and United show it in either the Details or Seats fold-outs. American shows it directly on the schedule. For non-legacy carriers, Southwest only flies 737s [and doesn't assign seats], but shows the specific revision in a fold-out when you click the flight number. JetBlue shows it without the need for a click (as American above). If you care about the in-flight experience at all, you surely shouldn't fly Spirit, but they show it as well in the seat map. For aggregators/OTAs, Expedia shows it in the details fold-out, Kayak in the flight fold-out, Google Flights in the results fold-out, ITA Matrix same. I tried and couldn't find a way to book a flight where I couldn't readily see the scheduled aircraft. There's no guarantee that your aircraft won't be switched out for operational necessity, but in that event I'm sure you could decline the switch and book on another flight if you had an operational, safety, convenience, or other concern with the switch. How do you book tickets where you don't and can't see the aircraft model before booking?
- CaptainZapp 8y ago
  Any airline reserves the right to swap the plane model and reassign your seat with no notice at all. That also goes for Asian and European carriers, which usually have a much higher service level than US carriers. Source: My own experience being assigned a seat on a Bombardier C100 (Airbus 220 now), which was swapped for an Airbus A320 with Swiss. This happened about three times and the moment you learn about it is at the gate.
  - sokoloff 8y ago
    Yes, those terms are right in the airline tariff/conditions of carriage.
  - saiya-jin 8y ago
    Exactly happened to me over this Easter - normal jet airbus swapped for some slower turboprop one (the one with long blades sticking out). Normally I wouldn't care so much, engines weren't that noisy, but the effin' plane was much much slower, meaning huge delay, missed train and forced sleepover in a place I really didn't want to spend any time. No warning or announcement whatsoever. Not even apology from crew for massive delay (Austrian airlines)
erentz 8y ago
> Have you noticed how when you buy the ticket there's no mention of the plane you'll actually fly in Yes you can. The scheduled aircraft type and seat layout is in the scheduling system and you can see it on any system I've used, up front before selecting the flight. (You wouldn't be able to pick your seat if it wasn't.) Go to Kayak for example, punch in one way PDX to PWM for May 1st, pick one of the non-spam flights that show up (i.e. a listing from a real airline). Click to expand the details and it'll list the flight number and airplane for each leg, it'll look something like: > American Airlines 658 · Narrow-body jet · Airbus A321-100/200 > American Airlines 6032 · Narrow-body jet · Embraer 175 > Delta 2974 · Narrow-body jet · Boeing 737-900 The same applies through the actual airline's booking system (and you're usually advised to book directly through the airline's website after finding your best flight option on a tool like Kayak). > and no guarantee that it won't be swapped 45 minutes before takeoff? This is true, but anecdotally it's happened to me only rarely due to a mechanical failures or some other reason.

BenjiWiebe 8y ago

Every time I've bought tickets it has shown me what plane I'll be flying in for each leg of the trip, and so far they've never switched planes on me either. Sample size is ~10.

doingmyting 8y ago
You dont even need to purchase first. If you search Kayak, JetBlue, Delta etc right now and expand the block for an available flight it shows you the equipment. Its an extra step that am not sure most will follow but its there

rjsw 8y ago

There are airlines that have an Airbus only fleet, easyJet for example.

close04 8y ago
"Airbus only" fleet in easyJet's case means Airbus A319-100, Airbus A320-200, Airbus A320neo, and Airbus A321neo. A Boeing only fleet could have 737NG and 737MAX. This doesn't help if you are completely against flying in the MAX.
- doingmyting 8y ago
  I think the point was that youre guaranteed to not fly in the MAX if you go with an airline with an airbus only fleet
  - close04 8y ago
    Good point. But then you wouldn't really avoid "737MAX" you'd be avoiding "Boeing". If the price increase theory is correct then you'd end up paying a lot more since you restrict the options of planes a lot more.

moftz 8y ago

Google Flights shows the make and model of the plane. Sometimes the actual airline webpage doesn't though so I use the info from Google to check seatguru since the airlines usually have pretty terrible seat selection charts.

sokoloff 8y ago

> Have you noticed how when you buy the ticket there's no mention of the plane I haven't noticed that. I can't recall ever booking a ticket on a carrier where the [scheduled] plane type wasn't readily available to me before purchasing. Typically looking at the seat map or details of the flight will show you the type (and sub-type). I wouldn't buy a ticket on a site that didn't preview that information. I just checked the major legacy US carriers and Delta and United show it in either the Details or Seats fold-outs. American shows it directly on the schedule. For non-legacy carriers, Southwest only flies 737s [and doesn't assign seats], but shows the specific revision in a fold-out when you click the flight number. JetBlue shows it without the need for a click (as American above). If you care about the in-flight experience at all, you surely shouldn't fly Spirit, but they show it as well in the seat map. For aggregators/OTAs, Expedia shows it in the details fold-out, Kayak in the flight fold-out, Google Flights in the results fold-out, ITA Matrix same. I tried and couldn't find a way to book a flight where I couldn't readily see the scheduled aircraft. There's no guarantee that your aircraft won't be switched out for operational necessity, but in that event I'm sure you could decline the switch and book on another flight if you had an operational, safety, convenience, or other concern with the switch. How do you book tickets where you don't and can't see the aircraft model before booking?

CaptainZapp 8y ago
Any airline reserves the right to swap the plane model and reassign your seat with no notice at all. That also goes for Asian and European carriers, which usually have a much higher service level than US carriers. Source: My own experience being assigned a seat on a Bombardier C100 (Airbus 220 now), which was swapped for an Airbus A320 with Swiss. This happened about three times and the moment you learn about it is at the gate.
- sokoloff 8y ago
  Yes, those terms are right in the airline tariff/conditions of carriage.
- saiya-jin 8y ago
  Exactly happened to me over this Easter - normal jet airbus swapped for some slower turboprop one (the one with long blades sticking out). Normally I wouldn't care so much, engines weren't that noisy, but the effin' plane was much much slower, meaning huge delay, missed train and forced sleepover in a place I really didn't want to spend any time. No warning or announcement whatsoever. Not even apology from crew for massive delay (Austrian airlines)

erentz 8y ago

> Have you noticed how when you buy the ticket there's no mention of the plane you'll actually fly in Yes you can. The scheduled aircraft type and seat layout is in the scheduling system and you can see it on any system I've used, up front before selecting the flight. (You wouldn't be able to pick your seat if it wasn't.) Go to Kayak for example, punch in one way PDX to PWM for May 1st, pick one of the non-spam flights that show up (i.e. a listing from a real airline). Click to expand the details and it'll list the flight number and airplane for each leg, it'll look something like: > American Airlines 658 · Narrow-body jet · Airbus A321-100/200 > American Airlines 6032 · Narrow-body jet · Embraer 175 > Delta 2974 · Narrow-body jet · Boeing 737-900 The same applies through the actual airline's booking system (and you're usually advised to book directly through the airline's website after finding your best flight option on a tool like Kayak). > and no guarantee that it won't be swapped 45 minutes before takeoff? This is true, but anecdotally it's happened to me only rarely due to a mechanical failures or some other reason.