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I've had some very bad experiences with Moniker in the past. I would even go so far as to say they are untrustworthy.

by ra 16y ago

jacquesm 16y ago
Can you be more specific ? I've been a moniker customer for many years now and have a fairly large number of domains under my control, between myself and related companies about 50,000 of them or so, not a single complaint to date except for two minor technical issues which were dealt with quite fast.
- ra 16y ago
  Once Moniker were a good registrar, but not anymore. My complaints about Moniker include not answering support emails, refusing domain transfers for no reason (domains I had sold - which naturally upset the counterparty), support staff putting me on hold and never coming back. I could go on. I used to have over 250 domains with them, but after their third or so screw up (without a hint of an apology or indication that they even cared about my business) I moved all of my stash to nearlyfreespeech. Couldn't be happier with nearlyfreespeech.
  - jacquesm 16y ago
    Do me a favor and mail me some specifics, I'll make some noise on your behalf, see where it leads. I think you deserve at least an answer about what was going on there.
    - ra 16y ago
      Thanks but it was over a year ago, I committed a fair bit of time trying to sort out these issues with them. In the end, I voted with my feet. But thanks anyway.
- drats 16y ago
  Your definition of untrustworthy and shady may be a bit lower than that of ra if you are in the type of business that holds 50k domains. I mean seriously, what's your business model with 50k domains? Or are you like one of the hosting companies that offers a free domain with an online service?
  - jacquesm 16y ago
    > Your definition of untrustworthy and shady may be a bit lower than that of ra if you are in the type of business that holds 50k domains. Thanks for playing mr. Anonymous, I don't think what I do for a living is a secret around here and did mention that that was a combined number between myself and a number of other companies. If you're clueless about something the polite thing to do is to ask rather than to make insinuations.
    - drats 16y ago
      Well I did ask in my last sentence, and you haven't answered. I didn't then but I have now gone to your projects; I see reocities, the ww/webcam thing and your blog. I don't see anything like bluehost or linode provisioning domains to users. The reason for the slight snark at the start of my message I suppose is that it's hard to find a domain and yet in every thread like this you get a few people confessing to hoarding hundreds or even thousands. Sorry for being sceptical, and curious, about what you could possible need 50k domains for: you'll have to spell it out for me or ignore me I suppose.
      - jacquesm 16y ago
        Would a 45K servers co-location facility meet your requirements? Or a couple of domain re-sellers that sell domains as part of their hosting package? (that use Moniker as their 'upstream'). > that it's hard to find a domain I've never had that problem. You mean that you find it hard to find 'single word' or 'perfect descriptions' of common ideas, and that's true, but I'm fairly sure that you can find plenty of good domain names for exactly $8. The value of a domain is directly proportional to the amount of time that you put in to it. Usually the people that complain about there not being any 'free' domains are really complaining that they can't get the domains they want. Not realizing perhaps that if the person currently holding their desired domain would not be holding it surely someone else would. There are all kinds of arguments for/against holding a large number of domains, my own criterion has always been that if my idea isn't worth the $8/year fee for a domain then I should not even bother to write it out. If you come by 6 weeks later and have the same idea, and through sheer coincidence decide on the same name then you will have to be just a little bit more creative, but we all agree the value is in the execution, not in the domain name. Google.com was worth $8 when they got it first, and at that time the same complaint was often heard. It's like the DNS variation on the HN/Reddit theme, and I figure as long as the DNS is the prevalent method of locating hosts this will continue to be the case. In a few years time all the 6 letter domains will be gone, etc. But there are an awful lot of possibilities there, 300M+, someone did some work to prove just how likely it is that some pronounceable domain is gone: http://semmyfun.blogspot.com/2010/09/what-is-probability-that-pronounceable.html http://semmyfun.blogspot.com/2010/09/what-is-probability-tha... For 7 letters (which is really quite short) that does not look all that bad to me.

I've had some very bad experiences with Moniker in the past. I would even go so far as to say they are untrustworthy.

by ra 16y ago

I've had some very bad experiences with Moniker in the past. I would even go so far as to say they are untrustworthy.

Can you be more specific ? I've been a moniker customer for many years now and have a fairly large number of domains under my control, between myself and related companies about 50,000 of them or so, not a single complaint to date except for two minor technical issues which were dealt with quite fast.

ra 16y ago
Once Moniker were a good registrar, but not anymore. My complaints about Moniker include not answering support emails, refusing domain transfers for no reason (domains I had sold - which naturally upset the counterparty), support staff putting me on hold and never coming back. I could go on. I used to have over 250 domains with them, but after their third or so screw up (without a hint of an apology or indication that they even cared about my business) I moved all of my stash to nearlyfreespeech. Couldn't be happier with nearlyfreespeech.
- jacquesm 16y ago
  Do me a favor and mail me some specifics, I'll make some noise on your behalf, see where it leads. I think you deserve at least an answer about what was going on there.
  - ra 16y ago
    Thanks but it was over a year ago, I committed a fair bit of time trying to sort out these issues with them. In the end, I voted with my feet. But thanks anyway.
drats 16y ago
Your definition of untrustworthy and shady may be a bit lower than that of ra if you are in the type of business that holds 50k domains. I mean seriously, what's your business model with 50k domains? Or are you like one of the hosting companies that offers a free domain with an online service?
- jacquesm 16y ago
  > Your definition of untrustworthy and shady may be a bit lower than that of ra if you are in the type of business that holds 50k domains. Thanks for playing mr. Anonymous, I don't think what I do for a living is a secret around here and did mention that that was a combined number between myself and a number of other companies. If you're clueless about something the polite thing to do is to ask rather than to make insinuations.
  - drats 16y ago
    Well I did ask in my last sentence, and you haven't answered. I didn't then but I have now gone to your projects; I see reocities, the ww/webcam thing and your blog. I don't see anything like bluehost or linode provisioning domains to users. The reason for the slight snark at the start of my message I suppose is that it's hard to find a domain and yet in every thread like this you get a few people confessing to hoarding hundreds or even thousands. Sorry for being sceptical, and curious, about what you could possible need 50k domains for: you'll have to spell it out for me or ignore me I suppose.
    - jacquesm 16y ago
      Would a 45K servers co-location facility meet your requirements? Or a couple of domain re-sellers that sell domains as part of their hosting package? (that use Moniker as their 'upstream'). > that it's hard to find a domain I've never had that problem. You mean that you find it hard to find 'single word' or 'perfect descriptions' of common ideas, and that's true, but I'm fairly sure that you can find plenty of good domain names for exactly $8. The value of a domain is directly proportional to the amount of time that you put in to it. Usually the people that complain about there not being any 'free' domains are really complaining that they can't get the domains they want. Not realizing perhaps that if the person currently holding their desired domain would not be holding it surely someone else would. There are all kinds of arguments for/against holding a large number of domains, my own criterion has always been that if my idea isn't worth the $8/year fee for a domain then I should not even bother to write it out. If you come by 6 weeks later and have the same idea, and through sheer coincidence decide on the same name then you will have to be just a little bit more creative, but we all agree the value is in the execution, not in the domain name. Google.com was worth $8 when they got it first, and at that time the same complaint was often heard. It's like the DNS variation on the HN/Reddit theme, and I figure as long as the DNS is the prevalent method of locating hosts this will continue to be the case. In a few years time all the 6 letter domains will be gone, etc. But there are an awful lot of possibilities there, 300M+, someone did some work to prove just how likely it is that some pronounceable domain is gone: http://semmyfun.blogspot.com/2010/09/what-is-probability-that-pronounceable.html http://semmyfun.blogspot.com/2010/09/what-is-probability-tha... For 7 letters (which is really quite short) that does not look all that bad to me.