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You forgot to factor in that he's also paying indirectly for employer-provided health insurance. How much is that in comparison?
by majewsky 8y ago
You forgot to factor in that he's also paying indirectly for employer-provided health insurance. How much is that in comparison?
- dogma1138 8y agoSame goes for Europe, my national insurance contribution(which doesn't even technically cover healthcare) is £6,664 a year, my employer pays an additional £17,281.19 in NICS a year. Do you think that you and your employer pay more than $30K a year for healthcare? Don't get me wrong there are a lot of things wrong with US healthcare including the costs for uninsured but Europeans pay through the nose direct and indirectly for their health insurance as well. With marginal tax of nearly of over 50% of your income when you include NI/Health Tax contributions, 20-25% VAT and much higher indirect taxes on everything from fuel to sugar you end up paying for it one way or another.
- majewsky 8y ago> Do you think that you and your employer pay more than $30K a year for healthcare? If I add the costs for my grandmother, then that sounds very likely. The important thing about universal healthcare is that workers pay for those who cannot pay themselves, so it's to be expected that a 30yo developer would pay way more than he gets back out. It's only fair, I'm gonna be old someday and I definitely want my health insurance to cover my expenses when I cannot pay premiums anymore.
- dogma1138 8y agoUniversal healthcare doesn’t have anything to do with progressive taxation. Half of the EU doesn’t have single payer and use a public private mix, many of them allow you to not pay for the public system at all above a certain gross pay. All health insurance schemes are based on the fact that young and healthy individuals pay more than they get, it has nothing to do with universal healthcare or a single payer system.