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this hasn't been an issue in almost 20 years.

by throwaway2048 8y ago

int_19h 8y ago
How many distros will install e.g. the proprietary (i.e. covering most recent hardware) NVidia drivers out of the box? If I remember correctly, Ubuntu only just now started doing this.
- throwaway2048 8y ago
  You don't need the proprietary nvidia drivers to drive a display at native resolution.
  - int_19h 8y ago
    You do need them if you want to use recent hardware, or get decent performance, or have working power management. From casual user's perspective, if this kind of stuff is not working properly, it's not really "set up".
pjmlp 8y ago
Yet my open source AMD driver doesn't do everything that the deprecated fxglr was capable of, and even less than the DirectX 11 version of it.
- michaelmrose 8y ago
  Examples?
  - pjmlp 8y ago
    Brazos APU.
    - michaelmrose 8y ago
      Good point. Historically AMD/ATI didn't provide official support for hardware for anywhere near as long as Nvidia and the open source gpu driver didn't provide near the same performance. For example devices could be available as new retail units one year and unsupported less than 3 years later. To contrast that nvidia generally provided support for a decade. For example the latest release only days ago supports hardware as old as 2012 legacy drivers support hardware as old as 2003. This is why I have bought nvidia hardware despite other issues however it looks like AMD open source support will be better going forward. This doesn't help anyone with old hardware.
WillPostForFood 8y ago
Just google "can't get linux to display correct resolution" You'll get plenty of results like this that are more recent than 1999. https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2012264 https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2012264
- michaelmrose 8y ago
  There are 2 things that cause this. Not having a driver installed and having it fall back to something which doesn't support the correct resolution or in fact bad cables. Most user installs will not encounter either problem. New amd has great support out of the box without installing anything and many distros support installing closed source nvidia or will work well enough for non gaming applications with the open source drivers. Please note that challenges aren't a result of X they are specifically the result of specific manufacturers drivers. Some of which have been more challenging in the past. For improvements on such in the future look to the manufacturers and support the ones that provide the optimal experience. Please note issues where users can't set the correct resolution for their hardware ALSO occurs on windows 10. Link from Winter 2018 https://troubleshooter.xyz/wiki/fix-cant-change-screen-resolution-windows-10/ https://troubleshooter.xyz/wiki/fix-cant-change-screen-resol...
  - throwaway2048 8y ago
    Windows is never going to be ready for the desktop at this rate.

this hasn't been an issue in almost 20 years.

How many distros will install e.g. the proprietary (i.e. covering most recent hardware) NVidia drivers out of the box? If I remember correctly, Ubuntu only just now started doing this.

throwaway2048 8y ago
You don't need the proprietary nvidia drivers to drive a display at native resolution.
- int_19h 8y ago
  You do need them if you want to use recent hardware, or get decent performance, or have working power management. From casual user's perspective, if this kind of stuff is not working properly, it's not really "set up".

pjmlp 8y ago

Yet my open source AMD driver doesn't do everything that the deprecated fxglr was capable of, and even less than the DirectX 11 version of it.

michaelmrose 8y ago
Examples?
- pjmlp 8y ago
  Brazos APU.
  - michaelmrose 8y ago
    Good point. Historically AMD/ATI didn't provide official support for hardware for anywhere near as long as Nvidia and the open source gpu driver didn't provide near the same performance. For example devices could be available as new retail units one year and unsupported less than 3 years later. To contrast that nvidia generally provided support for a decade. For example the latest release only days ago supports hardware as old as 2012 legacy drivers support hardware as old as 2003. This is why I have bought nvidia hardware despite other issues however it looks like AMD open source support will be better going forward. This doesn't help anyone with old hardware.

WillPostForFood 8y ago

Just google "can't get linux to display correct resolution" You'll get plenty of results like this that are more recent than 1999. https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2012264 https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2012264

michaelmrose 8y ago
There are 2 things that cause this. Not having a driver installed and having it fall back to something which doesn't support the correct resolution or in fact bad cables. Most user installs will not encounter either problem. New amd has great support out of the box without installing anything and many distros support installing closed source nvidia or will work well enough for non gaming applications with the open source drivers. Please note that challenges aren't a result of X they are specifically the result of specific manufacturers drivers. Some of which have been more challenging in the past. For improvements on such in the future look to the manufacturers and support the ones that provide the optimal experience. Please note issues where users can't set the correct resolution for their hardware ALSO occurs on windows 10. Link from Winter 2018 https://troubleshooter.xyz/wiki/fix-cant-change-screen-resolution-windows-10/ https://troubleshooter.xyz/wiki/fix-cant-change-screen-resol...
- throwaway2048 8y ago
  Windows is never going to be ready for the desktop at this rate.