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Tesla’s cars are not especially energy efficient: https://cleantechnica.com/2018/06/30/what-are-the-most-efficient-electric-cars/ https://cleantechnica.com/201

Tesla’s cars are not especially energy efficient: https://cleantechnica.com/2018/06/30/what-are-the-most-efficient-electric-cars/ https://cleantechnica.com/2018/06/30/what-are-the-most-effic...

jpgvm 8y ago
The older models with the older drivetrain no. But this is the Model 3 drivetrain. If you look at the data you posted you will find the Model 3 is basically ball park for "as good as you will get for now". The major difference being those other efficient drive trains aren't capable of anywhere near the torque that the M3 drivetrain is so it's not exactly an apples to apples comparison but I digress.
NotSammyHagar 8y ago
The model X tesla before this upgrade was much more efficient than the latest tesla killers from europe. This article [1] showed the audi e-tron is 23% less efficient than a model x (the family truckster huge suv tesla), and the i-pace is 26% less efficient. That is before the 10% performance. Tesla has excellent efficiency, much better than these german cars. The hundai is also a great, efficient car too. 1. https://electrek.co/2019/02/21/tesla-efficiency-range-test-audi-e-tron-jaguar-i-pace/ https://electrek.co/2019/02/21/tesla-efficiency-range-test-a...
- Brakenshire 8y ago
  That test doesn’t take into account increased battery buffers on the IPace or eTron, so it’s strange to call it an efficiency test.
  - NotSammyHagar 8y ago
    Okay, well another way to think of it is that tesla has proven their choices for amount of usable battery to offer succeeds with half a million + cars on the road and billions of miles driven. Their battery warranty is excellent and time proven. My S is 4 years old and approaching 50k miles and no appreciable degredation. If an S and an etron has about 85kwh there's something to compare there. Comparing to these other 2 companies, they are being way more conservative, or more likely they don't have as good a battery managment system and they are afraid of big costs down the line if the batteries do degrade. Either way, Tesla has a time tested much better system that provides much longer range with similar overall battery capacities. It's not that audi can't do better. Just at this time Audi & Jaguar suffer tremendously in comparison.
    - Brakenshire 8y ago
      Yes, that’s a fair way of looking at it. Will be interesting to see what happens with the MEB cars, you’d think there would be a lot of effort there to work on a really solid thermal management system, and much easier to extrapolate data from one model to another.

Tesla’s cars are not especially energy efficient: https://cleantechnica.com/2018/06/30/what-are-the-most-efficient-electric-cars/ https://cleantechnica.com/2018/06/30/what-are-the-most-effic...

jpgvm 8y ago

The older models with the older drivetrain no. But this is the Model 3 drivetrain. If you look at the data you posted you will find the Model 3 is basically ball park for "as good as you will get for now". The major difference being those other efficient drive trains aren't capable of anywhere near the torque that the M3 drivetrain is so it's not exactly an apples to apples comparison but I digress.

NotSammyHagar 8y ago

The model X tesla before this upgrade was much more efficient than the latest tesla killers from europe. This article [1] showed the audi e-tron is 23% less efficient than a model x (the family truckster huge suv tesla), and the i-pace is 26% less efficient. That is before the 10% performance. Tesla has excellent efficiency, much better than these german cars. The hundai is also a great, efficient car too. 1. https://electrek.co/2019/02/21/tesla-efficiency-range-test-audi-e-tron-jaguar-i-pace/ https://electrek.co/2019/02/21/tesla-efficiency-range-test-a...

Brakenshire 8y ago
That test doesn’t take into account increased battery buffers on the IPace or eTron, so it’s strange to call it an efficiency test.
- NotSammyHagar 8y ago
  Okay, well another way to think of it is that tesla has proven their choices for amount of usable battery to offer succeeds with half a million + cars on the road and billions of miles driven. Their battery warranty is excellent and time proven. My S is 4 years old and approaching 50k miles and no appreciable degredation. If an S and an etron has about 85kwh there's something to compare there. Comparing to these other 2 companies, they are being way more conservative, or more likely they don't have as good a battery managment system and they are afraid of big costs down the line if the batteries do degrade. Either way, Tesla has a time tested much better system that provides much longer range with similar overall battery capacities. It's not that audi can't do better. Just at this time Audi & Jaguar suffer tremendously in comparison.
  - Brakenshire 8y ago
    Yes, that’s a fair way of looking at it. Will be interesting to see what happens with the MEB cars, you’d think there would be a lot of effort there to work on a really solid thermal management system, and much easier to extrapolate data from one model to another.