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Elite schools do that in undergrad; e.g. as an initial scored lab exercise, write this recursive fractal shape using Logo, parallel Delaunay triangulation with
by bitL 8y ago
Elite schools do that in undergrad; e.g. as an initial scored lab exercise, write this recursive fractal shape using Logo, parallel Delaunay triangulation with prefix sums , dynamic programming solving oligopoly problem or single-value Paxos pseudocode on a piece of paper in 10 minutes (I am being serious). If you can cope with it, it immediately shows up in the interview and you are considered a member of the club, a person worthy of having conversations with.
- mattkrause 8y agoI’m having a hard time believing this is true.... If nothing else, Logo? In 2019?
- tamrix 8y agoHackernews has its own instagram reality to it.
- bitL 8y agoI think the term "Logo" stands on a perfect abstraction level that in reality could have meant "using turtle.py you programmed last week with turn, move etc. commands", don't you think? Do we need to be super-precise down to minutiae when discussing informal stuff? Moreover, it's on paper, so who cares what syntax is the pseudocode, it could be even Logo itself.
- mattkrause 8y ago> Do we need to be super-precise down to minutiae? No, but we also don’t need to make up ridiculous lies, especially ones that aren’t particularly funny.
- bitL 8y agoAlright then. Believe as you wish.
- peter_l_downs 8y agoWhich elite schools? I went to MIT and didn’t have to do any of this.
- natalyarostova 8y agoIt's a Caltech and Stanford thing. MIT isn't really elite.
- jjoonathan 8y agoSure.
- fenomas 8y agoOh not in Utica, it's more of an Albany expression.
- natalyarostova 8y agoI see.
- chollida1 8y agohttps://courses.csail.mit.edu/iap/interview/materials.php https://courses.csail.mit.edu/iap/interview/materials.php
- marquis-chacha 8y agoThat's a student taught class. Not really policy-defining.
- Dangeranger 8y agoThe course you linked to doesn’t cover any of the algorithms mentioned in the grandparent. It does however cover about three dozen common interview questions. The course is also from 2009.
- neilv 8y agoJust to add context: MIT Interim Activities Period (IAP) is a "winter break" few weeks in which anyone can lead classes/sessions on any topic: http://web.mit.edu/iap/about/index.html http://web.mit.edu/iap/about/index.html MIT CSAIL is the research lab joining of the legendary MIT AI Lab and MIT Lab for Computer Science. People who work hard and win the lottery to do research at CSAIL (or other prestigious lab) shouldn't afterwards be looking for entry-level coding jobs for which a whiteboard code monkey dance interview/hazing would be appropriate, IMHO. (For different reasons, people who are in programmer career tracks, with verifiable industry track records and/or open source involvement, also shouldn't be put through the entry-level hazing. Claims that the ritual gives certain companies metrics or somesuch would carry more credibility, had those companies not been caught brazenly colluding, at the CEO level, to systematically suppress wages and mobility of their own employees, with presumed spreading market effects throughout industry.)
- buckhx 8y agoCourse numbers or it didn't happen
- aphextron 8y ago>f you can cope with it, it immediately shows up in the interview and you are considered a member of the club, a person worthy of having conversations with. This is the best part of these interviews. The utterly dehumanizing nature of it. You aren't even treated as a person until you've uttered the correct series of phrases that signal you are a member of the right class. Every word that comes out of your mouth, and everything on your resume up until that point is completely disregarded and treated as a lie.