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“The new 14nm based self-developed chip is fabbed by Samsung and is capable of 144 tera operations per second (TOPS) (two chips each 72 TOPS) compared with Nvid
by zaroth 8y ago
“The new 14nm based self-developed chip is fabbed by Samsung and is capable of 144 tera operations per second (TOPS) (two chips each 72 TOPS) compared with Nvidia’s Drive Xavier’s theoretical performance of 21 TOPS. It features two fully independent packages, each with their own with DRAM memory, flash storage chips, and power supplies. If one fails, the failsafe is the second one.” [1]
So the correct way to look at this is that Tesla has a redundant 72 TOPS chip compared to nVidia Xavier 21 or 30 TOPS.
It’s nonsensical to compare a stack of chips versus another. NVidia claiming the fair comparison is a 320 TOPS system with 2 Xavier’s and 2 TensorCores pulling 500 watts total. A single Xavier provides 30 TOPS of Int8 at 30 watts.
The redundant Tesla setup by comparison pulls 100 watts total. [2]
A fact check that just parrots Nvidia’s blog with no actual research or fair presentation of the numbers may be par for the course but not terribly useful.
[1] - https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/tesla-develops-own-self-driving-ai-chip-removes-nvidia.html https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/tesla-develops-own-self-dr...
[2] - https://electrek.co/2019/04/23/nvidia-disputes-tesla-fsd-computer/ https://electrek.co/2019/04/23/nvidia-disputes-tesla-fsd-com...
- cptskippy 8y ago> The redundant Tesla setup by comparison pulls 100 watts total. [2] Hmm... I recalled him saying 72w in the presentation compared to 54w in the previous hardware. Then he said this was within the allotted power envelope and wouldn't impact range.
- zaroth 8y agoI didn’t watch the whole livestream, but it could be one talking about just the specific chips versus the other the whole system?
- cptskippy 8y agoYes, and they said the whole system was spec'd at under 200w in the Model 3. I went back and it was around the 1hr 30min mark when they had the chip designer on stage answering questions.