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"In all my travels no one is more deluded about the middle class than in the US. Healthcare is cheaper in Europe" Cheaper != better. Especially when it comes

"In all my travels no one is more deluded about the middle class than in the US. Healthcare is cheaper in Europe" Cheaper != better. Especially when it comes to something as important as healthcare. It also depends on what you are prioritizing. Universal care is good for checkups and when you are young and healthy. But it falls apart when you need major surgery due to much longer wait times and decisions made by a committee. It also makes it almost impossible to get private care, unless you are wealthy. "Yes, the DMV sucks, but guess what, that is the level of service voters decided they wanted and that is what the DMV can deliver based on it's funding" I'm not sure where you are going to the DMV in the US, but it hasn't been called that in about a decade where I live. It's also very well organized. I can get in line from my state's website and get a text message to come to the office, so I no longer have to sit for 2-3 hours. But, this does depend on the State. I would also see the actual stats on the middle class in Europe. As taxes get higher, it squeezes out the middle class and you pretty much just have two classes: the very rich and the rest. California is starting to resemble this and most of Europe has been like this for awhile.

yardie 7y ago
Not sure where you are getting that information from. This is not 2012 and all your talking points have been discredited during the ACA debates. There is no queue for major surgery there is a priority. The systems I’m familiar with are French, German, Japanese and UK. Guess what, most of the providers are private. Your doctors, pharmacies, clinics and surgeons all have a private practice. You pay the government and the government pays them. When our son was sick the doctor would drive over to check on him. She also proposed some elective procedures that we could have the state pay for or elect to pay ourselves to get it done immediately. My DMV is called FLHSMV but everyone calls it the DMV. Because that’s what they are known as nationally. They have moved some services online (renewal, address change) but most services still require an office visit, like voter registration. Income distribution in Western Europe is quite healthy. A lot less so on the eastern and southern sectors. The US middle class is definitely shrinking even with tax cuts. So, I hypothesize taxes have nothing or little to do with it.

yardie 7y ago

Not sure where you are getting that information from. This is not 2012 and all your talking points have been discredited during the ACA debates. There is no queue for major surgery there is a priority. The systems I’m familiar with are French, German, Japanese and UK. Guess what, most of the providers are private. Your doctors, pharmacies, clinics and surgeons all have a private practice. You pay the government and the government pays them. When our son was sick the doctor would drive over to check on him. She also proposed some elective procedures that we could have the state pay for or elect to pay ourselves to get it done immediately. My DMV is called FLHSMV but everyone calls it the DMV. Because that’s what they are known as nationally. They have moved some services online (renewal, address change) but most services still require an office visit, like voter registration. Income distribution in Western Europe is quite healthy. A lot less so on the eastern and southern sectors. The US middle class is definitely shrinking even with tax cuts. So, I hypothesize taxes have nothing or little to do with it.