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This is why if I ever move back to New England I'd move to New Hampshire. Massachusetts is hopelessly addicted to taxes, it could really use some of New Hampshi

by ng12 8y ago

This is why if I ever move back to New England I'd move to New Hampshire. Massachusetts is hopelessly addicted to taxes, it could really use some of New Hampshire's libertarian bent.

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colanderman 8y ago
Doesn't help with the tolls the GP is complaining about.
- ng12 8y ago
  But the roads are nice. You can tell the minute you leave MA.
dsfyu404ed 8y ago
I don't know how old you are but but moving to NH may not buy you much time. There's a fire-hose of Massholes who move there with no regard for the local culture and vote in a manner that attempts to recreate the dumpster fire they left. The idea of spending one's retirement living in the free states of northern New England is rapidly becoming obsolete.
- ng12 8y ago
  That's discouraging to hear. Seems to be happening everywhere, my friends in Texas are similarly complaining about the influx of Californians.
  - dsfyu404ed 8y ago
    I really thing we need interstate migration controls. The idea that within the span of a few decades a bunch of people sharing a set of beliefs can run a state into the ground then move somewhere else and start doing it again before society can react is an end run around the purpose of having separate states. I'd be perfectly fine having to be a resident somewhere for say 2yr before having voting rights there. If I'm moving somewhere then it's clearly a good enough place as is and I shouldn't be missing much by not being able to change things.
- pastor_elm 8y ago
  >free states of northern New England the concept of free is relative. New Hampshire is the only state in the area where you're not 'free' to smoke weed.
- josefresco 8y ago
  > There's a fire-hose of Massholes who move there with no regard for the local culture As a Mainer, living in Mass I find this hilarious. New Hampshire is the New Jersey/Texas/Florida of New England - to blame it on "massholes" is ridiculous.
  - dsfyu404ed 8y ago
    > New Hampshire is the New Jersey/Texas/Florida of New England What's that supposed to mean? I've lived in four of the New England states. You know what I liked best about three of them? Fewer Massholes.
    - josefresco 8y ago
      It was a joke. Texas because NH has that libertarian/don't tread of my mentality. New Jersey because of the commercial development / build up (you're never more than 20 min from a Lowes unless you're in the mountains) Florida because crazy shit happens in NH, and people go to HN to do crazy shit (source: I have family members and friends who did crazy shit there) As I said, it's a joke and shouldn't be taken seriously, NH is a lovely place - I skied there this winter, and visit regularly but I'll always be a Mainer, and now that I'm a "flatlander" Masshole I have a whole new set of jokes!
dangus 8y ago
Effective total state and local taxation on the median household: New Hampshire (18th): 9.94% Massachusetts (26th): 10.81% Seems very similar to me. Maybe we should stick to facts over divisive exaggerations. Source: https://wallethub.com/edu/best-worst-states-to-be-a-taxpayer/2416/ https://wallethub.com/edu/best-worst-states-to-be-a-taxpayer...
- ng12 8y ago
  > Maybe we should stick to facts over divisive exaggerations. Or we could avoid mischaracterizing lazy math as fact. New Hampshire has no income or sales tax compared to Massachusett's 5% and 6% respectively. New Hampshire has higher property tax, sure, but coupled with the COL disparity you can't honestly say the two are the same. Furthermore, it's missing GPs point which is that for all the vehicle-related taxes Massachusetts roads are notoriously terrible. New Hampshire's infrastructure ranks much better. EDIT: I'm also having a lot of trouble finding a source for that 7% figure they have for property tax. Best I can figure is it's around 1-1.5% in MA, 2-2.5% in NH. Also, looks like they based it on a $200,000 house without accounting for the fact that buys a lot more house in NH than MA.
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by ng12 8y ago

This is why if I ever move back to New England I'd move to New Hampshire. Massachusetts is hopelessly addicted to taxes, it could really use some of New Hampshire's libertarian bent.

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colanderman 8y ago

Doesn't help with the tolls the GP is complaining about.

ng12 8y ago
But the roads are nice. You can tell the minute you leave MA.

dsfyu404ed 8y ago

I don't know how old you are but but moving to NH may not buy you much time. There's a fire-hose of Massholes who move there with no regard for the local culture and vote in a manner that attempts to recreate the dumpster fire they left. The idea of spending one's retirement living in the free states of northern New England is rapidly becoming obsolete.

ng12 8y ago
That's discouraging to hear. Seems to be happening everywhere, my friends in Texas are similarly complaining about the influx of Californians.
- dsfyu404ed 8y ago
  I really thing we need interstate migration controls. The idea that within the span of a few decades a bunch of people sharing a set of beliefs can run a state into the ground then move somewhere else and start doing it again before society can react is an end run around the purpose of having separate states. I'd be perfectly fine having to be a resident somewhere for say 2yr before having voting rights there. If I'm moving somewhere then it's clearly a good enough place as is and I shouldn't be missing much by not being able to change things.
pastor_elm 8y ago
>free states of northern New England the concept of free is relative. New Hampshire is the only state in the area where you're not 'free' to smoke weed.
josefresco 8y ago
> There's a fire-hose of Massholes who move there with no regard for the local culture As a Mainer, living in Mass I find this hilarious. New Hampshire is the New Jersey/Texas/Florida of New England - to blame it on "massholes" is ridiculous.
- dsfyu404ed 8y ago
  > New Hampshire is the New Jersey/Texas/Florida of New England What's that supposed to mean? I've lived in four of the New England states. You know what I liked best about three of them? Fewer Massholes.
  - josefresco 8y ago
    It was a joke. Texas because NH has that libertarian/don't tread of my mentality. New Jersey because of the commercial development / build up (you're never more than 20 min from a Lowes unless you're in the mountains) Florida because crazy shit happens in NH, and people go to HN to do crazy shit (source: I have family members and friends who did crazy shit there) As I said, it's a joke and shouldn't be taken seriously, NH is a lovely place - I skied there this winter, and visit regularly but I'll always be a Mainer, and now that I'm a "flatlander" Masshole I have a whole new set of jokes!

dangus 8y ago

Effective total state and local taxation on the median household: New Hampshire (18th): 9.94% Massachusetts (26th): 10.81% Seems very similar to me. Maybe we should stick to facts over divisive exaggerations. Source: https://wallethub.com/edu/best-worst-states-to-be-a-taxpayer/2416/ https://wallethub.com/edu/best-worst-states-to-be-a-taxpayer...

ng12 8y ago
> Maybe we should stick to facts over divisive exaggerations. Or we could avoid mischaracterizing lazy math as fact. New Hampshire has no income or sales tax compared to Massachusett's 5% and 6% respectively. New Hampshire has higher property tax, sure, but coupled with the COL disparity you can't honestly say the two are the same. Furthermore, it's missing GPs point which is that for all the vehicle-related taxes Massachusetts roads are notoriously terrible. New Hampshire's infrastructure ranks much better. EDIT: I'm also having a lot of trouble finding a source for that 7% figure they have for property tax. Best I can figure is it's around 1-1.5% in MA, 2-2.5% in NH. Also, looks like they based it on a $200,000 house without accounting for the fact that buys a lot more house in NH than MA.
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