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The employees? Why do you think they should be fired?

malvosenior 8y ago
For creating an unprofessional working environment. Here once again they are complaining to the press about their personal issues and causing strife for employees that would like to focus on the work and not on politics or media drama.
- 0815test 8y ago
  Let's not blame these employees for Google's internal problems. AI-related ethics is a serious concern and Google choosing unqualified people to sit on their AI ethics board was a problem that they were correctly raising attention to. It's quite disappointing that the firm chose to do away with the ethics board altogether.
  - malvosenior 8y ago
    That's definitely your opinion. I see trouble making employees who are causing a lot of issues for their coworkers. I'm with the parent post and would fire them.
  - klipklop 8y ago
    Is Kay Cole James unqualified because she is a conservative?
- vkou 8y ago
  Drawing attention to verified instances of sexual harassment, and systemic failures by management to deal with it (90 million dollars paid to a departing sexual harasser) is not creating an unprofessional working environment. Harassment, and management's systemic failures to deal with it, however, does create an unprofessional working environment.
  - malvosenior 8y ago
    Verified? It was a he said, she said situation according to the New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/25/technology/google-sexual-harassment-andy-rubin.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/25/technology/google-sexual-... Regardless, if you are harassed, sue. If you don't like your company, quit. Causing a huge media uproar accomplishes nothing other than showing that you can't behave professionally. The case we're talking about now is a great point. The two troublemakers aren't doing as well in their careers as they would like so what do they do? Go to sympathetic media companies looking for outrage bait and blame their lack of career progress and shifting roles on "retaliation". I would not want to work with people like this and if I was their manager I would let them go.
    - vkou 8y ago
      > Verified? It was sufficiently verified to get Andy fired. It clearly met the bar to be seen as a problem by the company. > Regardless, if you are harassed, sue. If you don't like your company, quit. Causing a huge media uproar accomplishes nothing other than showing that you can't behave professionally. It empowers other victims to speak out, employees to organize, and demand change. As a result of the walk-out, a number of positive changes took place inside Google. Your argument is an authoritarian one, that values the appearance of propriety and conformity more then actual propriety.
eclipseo76 8y ago
For meddling with an ethics committee that wasn't their business in the first place. All of because there was one conservative on board. The horror, a conservative, on an ethics board. Think of the children.

For creating an unprofessional working environment. Here once again they are complaining to the press about their personal issues and causing strife for employees that would like to focus on the work and not on politics or media drama.

0815test 8y ago
Let's not blame these employees for Google's internal problems. AI-related ethics is a serious concern and Google choosing unqualified people to sit on their AI ethics board was a problem that they were correctly raising attention to. It's quite disappointing that the firm chose to do away with the ethics board altogether.
- malvosenior 8y ago
  That's definitely your opinion. I see trouble making employees who are causing a lot of issues for their coworkers. I'm with the parent post and would fire them.
- klipklop 8y ago
  Is Kay Cole James unqualified because she is a conservative?
vkou 8y ago
Drawing attention to verified instances of sexual harassment, and systemic failures by management to deal with it (90 million dollars paid to a departing sexual harasser) is not creating an unprofessional working environment. Harassment, and management's systemic failures to deal with it, however, does create an unprofessional working environment.
- malvosenior 8y ago
  Verified? It was a he said, she said situation according to the New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/25/technology/google-sexual-harassment-andy-rubin.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/25/technology/google-sexual-... Regardless, if you are harassed, sue. If you don't like your company, quit. Causing a huge media uproar accomplishes nothing other than showing that you can't behave professionally. The case we're talking about now is a great point. The two troublemakers aren't doing as well in their careers as they would like so what do they do? Go to sympathetic media companies looking for outrage bait and blame their lack of career progress and shifting roles on "retaliation". I would not want to work with people like this and if I was their manager I would let them go.
  - vkou 8y ago
    > Verified? It was sufficiently verified to get Andy fired. It clearly met the bar to be seen as a problem by the company. > Regardless, if you are harassed, sue. If you don't like your company, quit. Causing a huge media uproar accomplishes nothing other than showing that you can't behave professionally. It empowers other victims to speak out, employees to organize, and demand change. As a result of the walk-out, a number of positive changes took place inside Google. Your argument is an authoritarian one, that values the appearance of propriety and conformity more then actual propriety.

eclipseo76 8y ago

For meddling with an ethics committee that wasn't their business in the first place. All of because there was one conservative on board. The horror, a conservative, on an ethics board. Think of the children.