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Instead of chalking the tire they can chalk the pavement just before and after the tires. Perhaps they could even write the license plate number on the pavement

by jrs235 8y ago

Instead of chalking the tire they can chalk the pavement just before and after the tires. Perhaps they could even write the license plate number on the pavement too.

citizenkeen 8y ago
The appeal of chalking the tires is you can do it pretty fast, and if the car moves, so does the chalk. Chalking the ground doesn't work - "I just got here. That was chalk from before." Chalking the license plate doesn't work, it takes way too much time to write out all the license plates .
- penagwin 8y ago
  My understanding is that the chalking is mostly an aid for the parking people to keep tabs. "I just got here" can be used for any situation involving a ticket can't it? It's your word against the parking person anyway. > and if the car moves, so does the chalk. But the person handing out tickets would notice they moved. Or, if a person is trying that hard to evade tickets while still parking were they aren't supposed to, wouldn't they just wipe off the chalk?
  - function_seven 8y ago
    The chalk on the tread of the tire proves you didn't just get there, though. If you did, then it would not have been possible for the parking enforcement officer to have chalked it an hour ago. But if it's on the pavement, it's not crazy to imagine the marks were for a previous car, and that you parked in the same spot. Even the officer would be unsure of it.
    - jameshart 8y ago
      Chalk your own tires, it's the only way to be sure.
mc32 8y ago
They can also have a flat fee system $X/hr and afix that parking fee to your car then give you X days to pay, or they alternatively can require using an app to park at a spot. Or they can write city code to say in order to park on city property you volunteer this kind of “search” implicitly.
- pmiller2 8y ago
  > ...rewrite city code.... The law can’t force you to waive your constitutional rights. That’s the point of writing them into the constitution.
  - mc32 8y ago
    But you have the right to waive your rights. I think they can say, you can park, but only under these conditions? I could be wrong and I’d love to know what the answer is. I mean it’s like when you enter government buildings and they say “no firearms” despite the constitution.
    - pmiller2 8y ago
      You do have the right to waive (most of) your rights, but a right is something you have to affirmatively exercise. The government can’t waive your rights for you.
      - coolspot 8y ago
        Ahem.. second cough amendment cough .
        pmiller2 8y ago
        The second amendment includes the word "regulated" for a reason.
        ben509 8y ago
SamuelAdams 8y ago
What if the pavement is wet? What if there's ice or snow? Will chalk hold up then? What if there is no pavement? Dirt roads, brick roads, or even grassy areas can all be used for parking. Tire rubber is constant across all these environments. That's what makes the chalking approach work so well. Whatever replaces it must be equally ubiquitous.

by jrs235 8y ago

Instead of chalking the tire they can chalk the pavement just before and after the tires. Perhaps they could even write the license plate number on the pavement too.

citizenkeen 8y ago

The appeal of chalking the tires is you can do it pretty fast, and if the car moves, so does the chalk. Chalking the ground doesn't work - "I just got here. That was chalk from before." Chalking the license plate doesn't work, it takes way too much time to write out all the license plates .

penagwin 8y ago
My understanding is that the chalking is mostly an aid for the parking people to keep tabs. "I just got here" can be used for any situation involving a ticket can't it? It's your word against the parking person anyway. > and if the car moves, so does the chalk. But the person handing out tickets would notice they moved. Or, if a person is trying that hard to evade tickets while still parking were they aren't supposed to, wouldn't they just wipe off the chalk?
- function_seven 8y ago
  The chalk on the tread of the tire proves you didn't just get there, though. If you did, then it would not have been possible for the parking enforcement officer to have chalked it an hour ago. But if it's on the pavement, it's not crazy to imagine the marks were for a previous car, and that you parked in the same spot. Even the officer would be unsure of it.
  - jameshart 8y ago
    Chalk your own tires, it's the only way to be sure.

mc32 8y ago

They can also have a flat fee system $X/hr and afix that parking fee to your car then give you X days to pay, or they alternatively can require using an app to park at a spot. Or they can write city code to say in order to park on city property you volunteer this kind of “search” implicitly.

pmiller2 8y ago
> ...rewrite city code.... The law can’t force you to waive your constitutional rights. That’s the point of writing them into the constitution.
- mc32 8y ago
  But you have the right to waive your rights. I think they can say, you can park, but only under these conditions? I could be wrong and I’d love to know what the answer is. I mean it’s like when you enter government buildings and they say “no firearms” despite the constitution.
  - pmiller2 8y ago
    You do have the right to waive (most of) your rights, but a right is something you have to affirmatively exercise. The government can’t waive your rights for you.
    - coolspot 8y ago
      Ahem.. second cough amendment cough .
      - pmiller2 8y ago
        The second amendment includes the word "regulated" for a reason.
        ben509 8y ago

SamuelAdams 8y ago

What if the pavement is wet? What if there's ice or snow? Will chalk hold up then? What if there is no pavement? Dirt roads, brick roads, or even grassy areas can all be used for parking. Tire rubber is constant across all these environments. That's what makes the chalking approach work so well. Whatever replaces it must be equally ubiquitous.