In the early 2000s, it was Java and everything else. It still kind of is in a lot of places. My country barely bothers to even teach anything else at a lot of

In the early 2000s, it was Java and everything else. It still kind of is in a lot of places. My country barely bothers to even teach anything else at a lot of schools, and enterprise is almost entirely dominated by the JVM. You are exactly right. Having worked in Clojure and talked to a lot of other devs here and across Europe, most everyone got into Clojure or Scala because management and cultural complaints left them stuck with the JVM, and at least it beat building more EnterpriseWidgetFactoryGeneratorPatterns. Oracle and Java are the new IBM, and just like IBM, no one's really happy with them but management yells if you use anything else.