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> If you advocate to pay that position a lot of - I'm just blunt here: "rich kids" advocate against it because you are at uni anyway and they tell you it's an h

> If you advocate to pay that position a lot of - I'm just blunt here: "rich kids" advocate against it because you are at uni anyway and they tell you it's an honour to do this... however if they don't get refund for partly insane travel costs for their university pet project hell breaks loose... I hate this dynamic so much. I was in a cybersecurity club (back before every school had a program) and the school fought tooth and nail for every dime they gave us. We got reimbursed for a rental car and hotel once a year for a particular red team/blue team competition and that was it (and a certain professor was the only reason we got reimbursed). The bus going to take "activists" to protest at occupy wall street (or whatever) was paid for no questions asked.

dcbadacd 8y ago
Funding proper cybersecurity education is hard pretty much everywhere.
TheOperator 8y ago
I hate the school systems hero worship of sign wielding protesters. I remember the first time few times I went to protests. Idiot teenagers there to hang out with friends and skip school. NIMBYs there for completely different reasons than they were nominally protesting. Said NIMBYs arming teens with homemade signs which were promptly disposed of after 1 hour. Career protestors without jobs roaming from one protest to another. News crews long jaded to the reality of protests having their eyes roll out of their skulls watching said teenagers screw around. Then I watched the news regarding the same protest and it was like entering a damn reality distortion field where some narrative about the next generation of youth activists were deciding to do all this shit on their own and their NIMBY parents didn't organize the whole thing and coach their kids on what to say. The one protest that really jaded me was being part of protests for an olympic bid and seeing absolutely nobody. Jack shit people protested. Moment the worlds media showed up to town? Oh all sorts of "activists" concerned about "the government prioritizing a party over X cause" creating a fuss when all the money was already fucking spent. "Activists" telling tourists to stay away that could help us recoup some costs because that would somehow help the poor. "Activists" vandalizing olympic related stuff daily. "Activists" getting piss drunk, overdosing on opiates, and setting up homeless camps. Then the media and school system distorted these people into everyday heroes.
- cableshaft 8y ago
  Thank you for sharing your experience. I'm not sure why you're being downvoted.
  - ryguytilidie 8y ago
    Because he's lamenting how disingenuous he believes protests are while presenting them in a totally disingenuous manner.
    - tomcam 8y ago
      It seems to me he is just reporting his own observations. Am I incorrect?
    - TheOperator 8y ago
      That's exactly what I saw though. The more impressive protests I've seen tended to be union picket lines. Which I do not cross. I'm just jaded by the bullshit I've seen narracistic assholes pull. It gave me a lifelong appreciation for doing good quietly.
- bovermyer 8y ago
  I'm sure this happens. However, real protests mostly full of people that care do happen. I've seen this myself. Neither type of protest culture represents the entirety of protests.
  - michaelchisari 8y ago
    Campus activism is a strange thing because universities are filled with young people who don't really know what they're doing, what they really care about, what they truly believe, and how they relate to society as a whole. It's unfortunate that this is many people's first interaction with protests and activism, because it's a very unique portion of it and not at all representative of protest movements in general or of what they could be.
- dsfyu404ed 8y ago

dcbadacd 8y ago

Funding proper cybersecurity education is hard pretty much everywhere.

TheOperator 8y ago

I hate the school systems hero worship of sign wielding protesters. I remember the first time few times I went to protests. Idiot teenagers there to hang out with friends and skip school. NIMBYs there for completely different reasons than they were nominally protesting. Said NIMBYs arming teens with homemade signs which were promptly disposed of after 1 hour. Career protestors without jobs roaming from one protest to another. News crews long jaded to the reality of protests having their eyes roll out of their skulls watching said teenagers screw around. Then I watched the news regarding the same protest and it was like entering a damn reality distortion field where some narrative about the next generation of youth activists were deciding to do all this shit on their own and their NIMBY parents didn't organize the whole thing and coach their kids on what to say. The one protest that really jaded me was being part of protests for an olympic bid and seeing absolutely nobody. Jack shit people protested. Moment the worlds media showed up to town? Oh all sorts of "activists" concerned about "the government prioritizing a party over X cause" creating a fuss when all the money was already fucking spent. "Activists" telling tourists to stay away that could help us recoup some costs because that would somehow help the poor. "Activists" vandalizing olympic related stuff daily. "Activists" getting piss drunk, overdosing on opiates, and setting up homeless camps. Then the media and school system distorted these people into everyday heroes.

cableshaft 8y ago
Thank you for sharing your experience. I'm not sure why you're being downvoted.
- ryguytilidie 8y ago
  Because he's lamenting how disingenuous he believes protests are while presenting them in a totally disingenuous manner.
  - tomcam 8y ago
    It seems to me he is just reporting his own observations. Am I incorrect?
  - TheOperator 8y ago
    That's exactly what I saw though. The more impressive protests I've seen tended to be union picket lines. Which I do not cross. I'm just jaded by the bullshit I've seen narracistic assholes pull. It gave me a lifelong appreciation for doing good quietly.
bovermyer 8y ago
I'm sure this happens. However, real protests mostly full of people that care do happen. I've seen this myself. Neither type of protest culture represents the entirety of protests.
- michaelchisari 8y ago
  Campus activism is a strange thing because universities are filled with young people who don't really know what they're doing, what they really care about, what they truly believe, and how they relate to society as a whole. It's unfortunate that this is many people's first interaction with protests and activism, because it's a very unique portion of it and not at all representative of protest movements in general or of what they could be.
dsfyu404ed 8y ago