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If we keep letting a corporate entity get away with undesirable practices by merely slapping them on the wrist, we are actively signalling to them that they sho

If we keep letting a corporate entity get away with undesirable practices by merely slapping them on the wrist, we are actively signalling to them that they should continue to engage in those practices. The only way to stop a corporation from doing something undesirable is to make the punishment great enough that the undesirable act is a net financial loss to the corporation. I would personally fully support massive % of yearly revenue fines for anything to do with privacy.

saagarjha 7y ago
Work on making it illegal, then, so that corporations can be properly fined instead of random citizens having to justify billions in damages.
- kuzehanka 7y ago
  Just because something is illegal does not stop a corporation from doing it. If the financial penalty for an illegal act is less than the financial gain from carrying it out, it will be carried out. See: petrochemical pollution, bank money laundering, telcos selling customer data, etc. Legal or not, the discussion is whether a 1B punishment is appropriate. Yes, I think it is appropriate for an organisation with a reported quarterly revenue in the 90B range, maybe even on the low end.
  - saagarjha 7y ago
    By making something illegal, the government can go after the company by representing the collective will of the people it stands for. I think it’s much more reasonable to have billion dollar fines in that case.
- salthound 7y ago
  I don't understand this. Work on making what illegal? Facial recognition? Or breach of duty? Or making mistakes? It seems to me that we already have the proper way of dealing with this situation. Have the company pay punitive/exemplary damages.
  - saagarjha 7y ago
    Actually, that brings up a good point: what exactly should the remedy in this case be? I don’t think it’s clear that Apple is even at fault here. It’s a pretty shaky case and I’d place more blame on the officers who arrested him without double-checking than an in-store camera.

saagarjha 7y ago

Work on making it illegal, then, so that corporations can be properly fined instead of random citizens having to justify billions in damages.

kuzehanka 7y ago
Just because something is illegal does not stop a corporation from doing it. If the financial penalty for an illegal act is less than the financial gain from carrying it out, it will be carried out. See: petrochemical pollution, bank money laundering, telcos selling customer data, etc. Legal or not, the discussion is whether a 1B punishment is appropriate. Yes, I think it is appropriate for an organisation with a reported quarterly revenue in the 90B range, maybe even on the low end.
- saagarjha 7y ago
  By making something illegal, the government can go after the company by representing the collective will of the people it stands for. I think it’s much more reasonable to have billion dollar fines in that case.
salthound 7y ago
I don't understand this. Work on making what illegal? Facial recognition? Or breach of duty? Or making mistakes? It seems to me that we already have the proper way of dealing with this situation. Have the company pay punitive/exemplary damages.
- saagarjha 7y ago
  Actually, that brings up a good point: what exactly should the remedy in this case be? I don’t think it’s clear that Apple is even at fault here. It’s a pretty shaky case and I’d place more blame on the officers who arrested him without double-checking than an in-store camera.