Your post suggested that missing any obvious obstacles casts doubt on Tesla's claim that lidar isn't necessary, but I'm saying their claim will indeed be proven

Your post suggested that missing any obvious obstacles casts doubt on Tesla's claim that lidar isn't necessary, but I'm saying their claim will indeed be proven true if the overall safety level of vision-and-radar autonomy is far better than that of humans, even if they sometimes crash in ways that seem obviously avoidable to humans.