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We certainly debated this one over in the Discord channel...

nailer 7y ago
What about "Faster web apps with less code?" or "Faster, smaller, web apps?" They seem to be the main benefits for using Svelte.
- dictum 7y ago
  "Less code" implies less authored code, which may be a benefit of Svelte (is it? I haven't been able to use it much but it's on my radar) but doesn't necessarily map to its technical goals (less built code, less runtime processing). (Quick example: the countless hello world projects that result in >100KB bundles)
  - rich_harris 7y ago
    Authoring less code is definitely an explicit goal: https://svelte.dev/blog/write-less-code https://svelte.dev/blog/write-less-code
    - dictum 7y ago
      Obligatory fanboy comment: it seems that every project you create moves web dev in a better direction, and you don't seem like a bad chap either!
      - rich_harris 7y ago
        Thank you, that means a lot!
        DonHopkins 7y ago
        You're not just moving web dev in a better direction, but also fact and data based journalism and visualization! I first learned of Svelt and Rollup (and became your fan) when I asked how you made that great NYT article, The Follower Factory! I'm glad you've kept working on Svelt, and I can't wait to see what you do next. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/27/technology/social-media-bots.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/27/technology/so... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16247571 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16247571
    - DonHopkins 7y ago
      Ryan Tomayko would agree that's a noble goal! http://lesscode.org/ http://lesscode.org/
DonHopkins 7y ago
Deliciously edible fully organic packaging? Ouroboros: the tail recursive self devouring snake!
spicytunacone 7y ago
Just to bikeshed some more, why not recall the definition of svelte? Something along the lines of "the attractively thin (web app|UI) framework". I didn't even think it was an English word before I watched Rich's (great) talk.

What about "Faster web apps with less code?" or "Faster, smaller, web apps?" They seem to be the main benefits for using Svelte.

dictum 7y ago
"Less code" implies less authored code, which may be a benefit of Svelte (is it? I haven't been able to use it much but it's on my radar) but doesn't necessarily map to its technical goals (less built code, less runtime processing). (Quick example: the countless hello world projects that result in >100KB bundles)
- rich_harris 7y ago
  Authoring less code is definitely an explicit goal: https://svelte.dev/blog/write-less-code https://svelte.dev/blog/write-less-code
  - dictum 7y ago
    Obligatory fanboy comment: it seems that every project you create moves web dev in a better direction, and you don't seem like a bad chap either!
    - rich_harris 7y ago
      Thank you, that means a lot!
      - DonHopkins 7y ago
        You're not just moving web dev in a better direction, but also fact and data based journalism and visualization! I first learned of Svelt and Rollup (and became your fan) when I asked how you made that great NYT article, The Follower Factory! I'm glad you've kept working on Svelt, and I can't wait to see what you do next. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/27/technology/social-media-bots.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/27/technology/so... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16247571 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16247571
  - DonHopkins 7y ago
    Ryan Tomayko would agree that's a noble goal! http://lesscode.org/ http://lesscode.org/

DonHopkins 7y ago

Deliciously edible fully organic packaging? Ouroboros: the tail recursive self devouring snake!

spicytunacone 7y ago

Just to bikeshed some more, why not recall the definition of svelte? Something along the lines of "the attractively thin (web app|UI) framework". I didn't even think it was an English word before I watched Rich's (great) talk.