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Didn’t you say that one result as opposed to the other should be considered extremely suspicious and looked at again multiple times? Should the opposite result

Didn’t you say that one result as opposed to the other should be considered extremely suspicious and looked at again multiple times? Should the opposite result also be viewed this way?

YeGoblynQueenne 8y ago
I said that, yes. I didn't say anything about results that make people uncomfortable. Can you explain why you brought up the subject? >> Should the opposite result also be viewed this way? Does the opposite result coincide with a commonly held preconception?
- threwawasy1228 8y ago
  I think what they are arguing is that, YOU are feeling uncomfortable with one of the results, and thus are biased toward exploring it more than the other which validates your views. You here are showing that bias again by saying that because the opposite coincides with commonly held preconceptions, it should be taken without as much scrutiny. If this isn't what you meant I apologize but that sure seems to be what you are saying.
  - YeGoblynQueenne 8y ago
    It's very unpleasant to take part in an online conversation only for people to try to psychoanalyse you and discern hidden motives in your comments. My comment says what I meant to say. What it doesn't say, I didn't mean to say on the subject. Responses to what I didn't say are none of my business and I won't bother with them any more.
- ThrowawayR2 8y ago
  > Does the opposite result coincide with a commonly held preconception? The only reasonable answer is "It doesn't matter." As long as the result is reproducible, coinciding with commonly held preconceptions or not is of no relevance whatsoever. All results need to be equally validated for reproducibility.
  - owens99 8y ago
    You don’t seem to think bias is reproducible.
    - bluGill 8y ago
      It is, but the scientific method is the best we have to eliminate bias. If the study design is sound and the results reproduce it is a fact. Now it may well be the study design is biased, but since it is documented anyone who sees a new bias is welcome to design a new study that eliminates that (I write this as if doing a scientific study is easy, in the real world it isn't but I'll ignore that real objection). There are also interesting meta-studies that eliminate some bias.
- phkahler 8y ago
  >> I didn't say anything about results that make people uncomfortable. Perhaps you didn't realize that going against cultural bias (your term in another comment) make many people uncomfortable.
  - YeGoblynQueenne 8y ago
    But what does that have to do with my comment? Did I say anything about making people uncomfortable?
- wtdata 8y ago
  > Does the opposite result coincide with a commonly held preconception? Why should the result that goes against the commonly held preconception be under greater scrutiny? If any difference would exist in scrutiny, it should obviously ask more from a result that goes against the general preconception.

Didn’t you say that one result as opposed to the other should be considered extremely suspicious and looked at again multiple times? Should the opposite result also be viewed this way?

YeGoblynQueenne 8y ago

I said that, yes. I didn't say anything about results that make people uncomfortable. Can you explain why you brought up the subject? >> Should the opposite result also be viewed this way? Does the opposite result coincide with a commonly held preconception?

threwawasy1228 8y ago
I think what they are arguing is that, YOU are feeling uncomfortable with one of the results, and thus are biased toward exploring it more than the other which validates your views. You here are showing that bias again by saying that because the opposite coincides with commonly held preconceptions, it should be taken without as much scrutiny. If this isn't what you meant I apologize but that sure seems to be what you are saying.
- YeGoblynQueenne 8y ago
  It's very unpleasant to take part in an online conversation only for people to try to psychoanalyse you and discern hidden motives in your comments. My comment says what I meant to say. What it doesn't say, I didn't mean to say on the subject. Responses to what I didn't say are none of my business and I won't bother with them any more.
ThrowawayR2 8y ago
> Does the opposite result coincide with a commonly held preconception? The only reasonable answer is "It doesn't matter." As long as the result is reproducible, coinciding with commonly held preconceptions or not is of no relevance whatsoever. All results need to be equally validated for reproducibility.
- owens99 8y ago
  You don’t seem to think bias is reproducible.
  - bluGill 8y ago
    It is, but the scientific method is the best we have to eliminate bias. If the study design is sound and the results reproduce it is a fact. Now it may well be the study design is biased, but since it is documented anyone who sees a new bias is welcome to design a new study that eliminates that (I write this as if doing a scientific study is easy, in the real world it isn't but I'll ignore that real objection). There are also interesting meta-studies that eliminate some bias.
phkahler 8y ago
>> I didn't say anything about results that make people uncomfortable. Perhaps you didn't realize that going against cultural bias (your term in another comment) make many people uncomfortable.
- YeGoblynQueenne 8y ago
  But what does that have to do with my comment? Did I say anything about making people uncomfortable?
wtdata 8y ago
> Does the opposite result coincide with a commonly held preconception? Why should the result that goes against the commonly held preconception be under greater scrutiny? If any difference would exist in scrutiny, it should obviously ask more from a result that goes against the general preconception.