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No, please, be blunt. This is all honest. Let me put it this way. In my 20s, I was 100% money driven. In my 30s, probably 75%, now in my 40s, about 50%. I'm not

No, please, be blunt. This is all honest. Let me put it this way. In my 20s, I was 100% money driven. In my 30s, probably 75%, now in my 40s, about 50%. I'm not saying I want to feed starving children in Africa. That'd be a good thing, but my thing is different. I get offers, not a ton, but some, that are for more money, but I'd have to give up things I care about more. Time with my family, doing what I love to do, working with people I might not want to work with, etc. Everyone has these. So now why is this a thing and not just me-- If you look at millennials, they're nowhere near as money driven as my generation or the one before mine. I've seen it time and again. It's not black and white -- there are some that are mercs, and the ones that aren't are not 100% saints, but the mean is shifting away from money. Thanks for the feedback.

scarface74 7y ago
Even so, from your side, your motivation from being in business is for your own work life balance and to further your goals - which are not necessarily financial. But unless I as an employee think that I’m doing something for a higher calling, what motivation do I have to work for your company besides either making more money now, or to learn skills where I can leave and make more money later? In other words, I may be willing to make less for a non profit but not for a for profit business. And that’s not meant to be judgemental. You would be hiring me because you can arbitrage my talents and pay me less than you can profit from me. On the other hand, I would work for you to get the most money I could and at the same time understanding that you are profiting off of me in exchange for me not having to worry about all of the headaches of running a business. I think negotiating is about coming up with a mutually agreeable amount.
- jprocopio 7y ago
  I think we agree on those points. Most people don't get to negotiate, especially younger people earlier in their careers, especially when it comes to things like incentives, base/bonus, and milestones. If you negotiate, you're the exception. I know I am.

scarface74 7y ago

Even so, from your side, your motivation from being in business is for your own work life balance and to further your goals - which are not necessarily financial. But unless I as an employee think that I’m doing something for a higher calling, what motivation do I have to work for your company besides either making more money now, or to learn skills where I can leave and make more money later? In other words, I may be willing to make less for a non profit but not for a for profit business. And that’s not meant to be judgemental. You would be hiring me because you can arbitrage my talents and pay me less than you can profit from me. On the other hand, I would work for you to get the most money I could and at the same time understanding that you are profiting off of me in exchange for me not having to worry about all of the headaches of running a business. I think negotiating is about coming up with a mutually agreeable amount.

jprocopio 7y ago
I think we agree on those points. Most people don't get to negotiate, especially younger people earlier in their careers, especially when it comes to things like incentives, base/bonus, and milestones. If you negotiate, you're the exception. I know I am.