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Interesting link, but I think you misunderstand my question. There are both automated and manual queues at most EU airports (the airport where I live doesn't ha

by xmodem 8y ago

Interesting link, but I think you misunderstand my question. There are both automated and manual queues at most EU airports (the airport where I live doesn't have automated queues which I must say is quite annoying) but when departing Shengen, you have to show your passport to verify your identity - either to a facial recognition machine or to a human. That's not what happens at US airports presently, and from the article it doesn't read like they're going to start doing that. It reads like they're going to put cameras up and search a database of photos collected from passports on entry, which I must say makes zero sense. Why not check the person presented against the document they are carrying?

dogma1138 8y ago
In many EU airports it's a mix of both, you have to give a passport to a human then you have a silly spot on the ground where you stand and have your picture taken. The human is there to verify non biometric passports but the picture is taken anyhow and is likely compared against a DB as well. This is because the full effect of the legislation hasn't been implemented yet, IIRC all Schengen entry visas will require a biometric passport after 2020 or 2022. Once that happens there is little reason to keep humans in place other than for assistance.
- vinay427 8y ago
  That would in no way replace most humans. That's not how visas work in virtually every country. Humans are there not just to verify identity but to verify that a person should enter. For example, if they sound like they may work on a visitor visa, or may overstay their visa, they may not be granted entry. Furthermore, for verifying entry, I fail to see how face detection biometric devices could ensure that the person walking through is the one being photographed, unless there are other humans in place or far more intelligent systems. Someone could hold up a sufficiently well-crafted picture, bring someone else to be photographed instead of them, etc.

by xmodem 8y ago

dogma1138 8y ago

In many EU airports it's a mix of both, you have to give a passport to a human then you have a silly spot on the ground where you stand and have your picture taken. The human is there to verify non biometric passports but the picture is taken anyhow and is likely compared against a DB as well. This is because the full effect of the legislation hasn't been implemented yet, IIRC all Schengen entry visas will require a biometric passport after 2020 or 2022. Once that happens there is little reason to keep humans in place other than for assistance.

vinay427 8y ago
That would in no way replace most humans. That's not how visas work in virtually every country. Humans are there not just to verify identity but to verify that a person should enter. For example, if they sound like they may work on a visitor visa, or may overstay their visa, they may not be granted entry. Furthermore, for verifying entry, I fail to see how face detection biometric devices could ensure that the person walking through is the one being photographed, unless there are other humans in place or far more intelligent systems. Someone could hold up a sufficiently well-crafted picture, bring someone else to be photographed instead of them, etc.