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Whilst changing countries recently, I downsized to a 6m2 appartement for the days I came through the city. I've lived in 20m2 apartments before, and find the 6m

by kweks 7y ago

Whilst changing countries recently, I downsized to a 6m2 appartement for the days I came through the city. I've lived in 20m2 apartments before, and find the 6m2 vastly more comfortable, for a few reasons. 6 - 10m2 are tiny, which force you to keep possessions to a minimum, and stay neat and organised. 20m2 is double the size, but double the frustration: you can almost do many things in it, but always at a compromise. I'd have never expected it until I lived it, but 10m2 is much more comfortable than 20.

dogma1138 7y ago
Jesus I find my London 79m2 apartment claustrophobic do you spend any time indoors other than sleeping? What about Guests? Partners?
- hnarn 7y ago
  Finding 79 sqm of living space "claustrophobic", especially in one of the most expensive cities in the world, seems a bit odd to say the least. Just like most privileges in life, living space has a tendency to get taken for granted. A lot of people use extra rooms just to store possessions they should have thrown away a long time ago, or never should have bought in the first place. I personally think that seeing the times we live in, people in general really need to question their conscience when it comes to what you actually "need", and what habits we never question when it comes to how we consume. This doesn't just apply to living space.
  - dogma1138 7y ago
    How is it odd? a prison cell on 5th avenue is still a prison cell. I have 1 bedroom, 1 office and a living room, I don't keep trash in the flat we have a storage unit, in fact unless we convert the 2nd bedroom/office to a closet we actually rotate clothes in and out of the storage unit because there isn't enough wardrobe space for 2 people for all seasons. Tiny apartments are a health hazard they damage both your physical and mental health, they aren't any more environmentally conscious than properly sized apartments and this whole minimalism fad is complete horeshit litterarly sold too and by useful idiots. A 6m^2 apartment is below what is legally can be called a room in the UK, In fact it's the size of a US prison cell (5.8m^2), 20m is blow the legal limit for a home which iirc is 37m2 but in the UK this only covers recent builds and conversion so you might still find 30m flats somewhere however depending on the council they are can be illegal to rent out. For perspective this is what 6 square meters look like https://weburbanist.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/6x9-jail-cell-960x514.jpg https://weburbanist.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/6x9-jail-... So yes while I was a bit hyperbolic I don't understand how someone can live in a literal prison cell yet alone calling it more comfortable than living in a small hotel room. But no I don't to question my conscience regarding what I need or don't need, what I want is an apartment in an area I like, close to what I need and want to have, for a price I'm willing to pay. Besides that I would opt out to get the largest apartment I can, 2 baths is a must because I live with a partner, having an extra room for work and or guests is also nice especially since it allows us both to work from home on the same day and gives us some room from each other if things get too heated and I don't have to be in her face or one of us has to go out.
    - iheartpotatoes 7y ago
      >> Tiny apartments are a health hazard they damage both your physical and mental health, >> they aren't any more environmentally conscious >> this whole minimalism fad is complete horeshit litterarly sold too and by useful idiots >> can live in a literal prison cell You seem to be ranting. I think most of your points are beliefs without facts or just things you've invented to be angry about.
      - dogma1138 7y ago
        A simple Google search would’ve brought up enough results e.g. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/282150/ https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/artic... Or you know just take an air quality meter and check it for yourself. In fact sleeping in small bedrooms is also quite terrible for your health. People should not live in prison cells let’s stop making them sexy so developers can make more money by squeezing more people into a given area.
        iheartpotatoes 7y ago
        Fair enough. If you're going to make a point, do what "literally" all the other good posts do and footnote it. Don't put the burden of proving your point on the reader, that's your job in the OP.
- kweks 7y ago
  Happily work, cook, sleep, and have had partners over. Again, there seems to be an 'uncanny valley' of sizes where the feeling of inconvenience is overriden by simplicity.
  - dogma1138 7y ago
    In an apartment the size a US prison cell? You either have the measurements wrong or I'm calling BS on that, how do you even fit a twin bed in a 6m2 apartment? Do you shit in the sink?
    - thfuran 7y ago
      Seriously, that's about the size of my bathroom. I certainly could have a smaller shower, but I'd change my tune if I had to sleep in it.
      - GFischer 7y ago
        Just to give you my perspective as an Uruguayan (South American) software developer, whenever I visit the U.S. I think houses are ridiculously huge - most are bigger than mansions here in Uruguay. I don´t have the same experience in Europe.
    - GFischer 7y ago
      A twin bed isn´t a requirement for a single person. I lived in a 14 square meter apartment for 8 years, it´s not that harsh.

by kweks 7y ago

dogma1138 7y ago

Jesus I find my London 79m2 apartment claustrophobic do you spend any time indoors other than sleeping? What about Guests? Partners?

hnarn 7y ago
Finding 79 sqm of living space "claustrophobic", especially in one of the most expensive cities in the world, seems a bit odd to say the least. Just like most privileges in life, living space has a tendency to get taken for granted. A lot of people use extra rooms just to store possessions they should have thrown away a long time ago, or never should have bought in the first place. I personally think that seeing the times we live in, people in general really need to question their conscience when it comes to what you actually "need", and what habits we never question when it comes to how we consume. This doesn't just apply to living space.
- dogma1138 7y ago
  How is it odd? a prison cell on 5th avenue is still a prison cell. I have 1 bedroom, 1 office and a living room, I don't keep trash in the flat we have a storage unit, in fact unless we convert the 2nd bedroom/office to a closet we actually rotate clothes in and out of the storage unit because there isn't enough wardrobe space for 2 people for all seasons. Tiny apartments are a health hazard they damage both your physical and mental health, they aren't any more environmentally conscious than properly sized apartments and this whole minimalism fad is complete horeshit litterarly sold too and by useful idiots. A 6m^2 apartment is below what is legally can be called a room in the UK, In fact it's the size of a US prison cell (5.8m^2), 20m is blow the legal limit for a home which iirc is 37m2 but in the UK this only covers recent builds and conversion so you might still find 30m flats somewhere however depending on the council they are can be illegal to rent out. For perspective this is what 6 square meters look like https://weburbanist.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/6x9-jail-cell-960x514.jpg https://weburbanist.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/6x9-jail-... So yes while I was a bit hyperbolic I don't understand how someone can live in a literal prison cell yet alone calling it more comfortable than living in a small hotel room. But no I don't to question my conscience regarding what I need or don't need, what I want is an apartment in an area I like, close to what I need and want to have, for a price I'm willing to pay. Besides that I would opt out to get the largest apartment I can, 2 baths is a must because I live with a partner, having an extra room for work and or guests is also nice especially since it allows us both to work from home on the same day and gives us some room from each other if things get too heated and I don't have to be in her face or one of us has to go out.
  - iheartpotatoes 7y ago
    >> Tiny apartments are a health hazard they damage both your physical and mental health, >> they aren't any more environmentally conscious >> this whole minimalism fad is complete horeshit litterarly sold too and by useful idiots >> can live in a literal prison cell You seem to be ranting. I think most of your points are beliefs without facts or just things you've invented to be angry about.
    - dogma1138 7y ago
      A simple Google search would’ve brought up enough results e.g. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/282150/ https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/artic... Or you know just take an air quality meter and check it for yourself. In fact sleeping in small bedrooms is also quite terrible for your health. People should not live in prison cells let’s stop making them sexy so developers can make more money by squeezing more people into a given area.
      - iheartpotatoes 7y ago
        Fair enough. If you're going to make a point, do what "literally" all the other good posts do and footnote it. Don't put the burden of proving your point on the reader, that's your job in the OP.
kweks 7y ago
Happily work, cook, sleep, and have had partners over. Again, there seems to be an 'uncanny valley' of sizes where the feeling of inconvenience is overriden by simplicity.
- dogma1138 7y ago
  In an apartment the size a US prison cell? You either have the measurements wrong or I'm calling BS on that, how do you even fit a twin bed in a 6m2 apartment? Do you shit in the sink?
  - thfuran 7y ago
    Seriously, that's about the size of my bathroom. I certainly could have a smaller shower, but I'd change my tune if I had to sleep in it.
    - GFischer 7y ago
      Just to give you my perspective as an Uruguayan (South American) software developer, whenever I visit the U.S. I think houses are ridiculously huge - most are bigger than mansions here in Uruguay. I don´t have the same experience in Europe.
  - GFischer 7y ago
    A twin bed isn´t a requirement for a single person. I lived in a 14 square meter apartment for 8 years, it´s not that harsh.