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Best to avoid any connection with ice altogether by keeping your spirits in the freezer. There is nothing more dispiriting that paying over the odds for a cock

Best to avoid any connection with ice altogether by keeping your spirits in the freezer. There is nothing more dispiriting that paying over the odds for a cocktail and watching the ghastly wannabe shaking it for half-an-hour with slush so he can fill a 'large glass' with basically water. Stir or shake is then a matter of choice as to how opalescent you want your drink. At hypernumbers we only serve cocktails from Schumann's American bar: http://astore.amazon.com/hypernumbersc-20/detail/1558598537 http://astore.amazon.com/hypernumbersc-20/detail/1558598537 In particular I would recommend a Claridge, stirred and not shaken. If you are a sloshed geek you might find this engineering schematic of cocktails amusing as well: http://www.scribd.com/doc/27580670/Engineers-Guide-to-Drinks http://www.scribd.com/doc/27580670/Engineers-Guide-to-Drinks

iuguy 16y ago
Really? I've never read American bar although I heard it leaves a lot of common drinks out on the grounds that Schumann didn't like them. I'd also find it strange that you'd limit yourself to drinks prepared for a mock-American bar in Munich. If you're going to limit what you do, doesn't it makes more sense to limit the menu to IBA cocktails? (I don't know, never ran a bar, know a few who do though). Also why the Claridge recommendation? Any particular reason? I'm interested to know.
- gordonguthrie 16y ago
  > it leaves a lot of common drinks out on the grounds that Schumann didn't like them Given that most 'cocktails' I have ever been served in bars are basically 'alcohol disguised as fruit juice' leaving them out is not a bad thing. Essentially if a cocktail has a name like a porn film, don't drink it. Given that he ran the Cocktail Bar at the Ritz in Paris I think "drinks prepared for a mock-American bar in Munich" is a tad snippy. We Europeans have been drinking strong drinks for a long time. I recommend Claridges because I like them. Drink of champions.
  - iuguy 16y ago
    You're right about my comment, it was a bit snippy. Even so, I find your reference to porno cocktails both understandable and snobbish at the same time. Every time someone asks me to mix them a sex on the beach I die a little inside. In fact I get that with mojitos (if they ask for Bacardi) and Margheritas (with Jose Cuervo) too, so I can't exactly exclude myself from the snobbish end. Europeans I find don't have the monopoly on strong drinks - the Russians have been outdoing the whole of Europe (including us Brits and Irish) on the mad booze stakes for a while! Fair enough that you recommend Claridges - I'll have to give it a try. Is it acceptable to use Cointreau instead of something like Grand Marnier for this, or does it have to be a specific triple sec?
jdminhbg 16y ago
The Engineer's Guide to Drinks, non-scribd PDF: http://flowingdata.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Engineers-Guide-to-Drinks11.pdf http://flowingdata.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Engineers-...

iuguy 16y ago

Really? I've never read American bar although I heard it leaves a lot of common drinks out on the grounds that Schumann didn't like them. I'd also find it strange that you'd limit yourself to drinks prepared for a mock-American bar in Munich. If you're going to limit what you do, doesn't it makes more sense to limit the menu to IBA cocktails? (I don't know, never ran a bar, know a few who do though). Also why the Claridge recommendation? Any particular reason? I'm interested to know.

gordonguthrie 16y ago
> it leaves a lot of common drinks out on the grounds that Schumann didn't like them Given that most 'cocktails' I have ever been served in bars are basically 'alcohol disguised as fruit juice' leaving them out is not a bad thing. Essentially if a cocktail has a name like a porn film, don't drink it. Given that he ran the Cocktail Bar at the Ritz in Paris I think "drinks prepared for a mock-American bar in Munich" is a tad snippy. We Europeans have been drinking strong drinks for a long time. I recommend Claridges because I like them. Drink of champions.
- iuguy 16y ago
  You're right about my comment, it was a bit snippy. Even so, I find your reference to porno cocktails both understandable and snobbish at the same time. Every time someone asks me to mix them a sex on the beach I die a little inside. In fact I get that with mojitos (if they ask for Bacardi) and Margheritas (with Jose Cuervo) too, so I can't exactly exclude myself from the snobbish end. Europeans I find don't have the monopoly on strong drinks - the Russians have been outdoing the whole of Europe (including us Brits and Irish) on the mad booze stakes for a while! Fair enough that you recommend Claridges - I'll have to give it a try. Is it acceptable to use Cointreau instead of something like Grand Marnier for this, or does it have to be a specific triple sec?

jdminhbg 16y ago

The Engineer's Guide to Drinks, non-scribd PDF: http://flowingdata.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Engineers-Guide-to-Drinks11.pdf http://flowingdata.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Engineers-...