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I'm curious as to what percentage of the US vs Chinese populations know about their own governments horrors? I mean, what percentage of US students would recog

I'm curious as to what percentage of the US vs Chinese populations know about their own governments horrors? I mean, what percentage of US students would recognize the Tuskegee experiments continued until 1972? I've had many people straight up tell me that is a lie, or a 'conspiracy theory'. In fact, I think this post will get down voted, despite asking a perfectly valid question and having concrete factual examples. Not saying it isn't appalling that Leica is apologizing. Thought it makes sense from a business perspective. I'm just curious to know what is more effective: the soft censorship of the west created by unwritten social norms or the hard censorship of the east?

icelancer 7y ago
>> what percentage of US students would recognize the Tuskegee experiments continued until 1972 Literally everyone who has ever had to take a medical or scientific ethics course knows this, since the IRB process was born specifically from this horrific abuse of science. I'm guessing most high schools cover it in US History and/or World History, also, as mine did.
- AbitofAsum 7y ago
  I went to a rather nice semi-private high school (graduated 15 years ago) and Tuskegee was not covered
  - 4ntonius8lock 7y ago
    Thank you. It seems this is common knowledge in some circles. I know for a fact it isn't in others. My post was just a question as to the overall percentage. Not whether there were any Americans who knew about the experiments. Apparently asking questions and being inquisitive is bad now.
danso 7y ago
How has Tuskegee been “soft” censored by the U.S. government?
- 4ntonius8lock 7y ago
  I never said it was the government, in fact I even specifically stated unwritten social norms. It's interesting that a straw-man is being used to attack the argument. Society is a complex system. The west has soft censorship via control systems. If you can't see any now, that is fine. But we can deduct they exist from logic. Here's an example: We can recognize the old ones. US newspapers and schools had effective censorship of, for example, the struggle of gay people in the US. The struggle was there, but it wasn't talked about. No matter the mechanisms to achieve this, it is effective soft censoring. While this doesn't exist anymore, it would be unreasonable to think we don't have similar blind sides now (I see plenty, but... that is neither here nor there, I'm going off logic)

icelancer 7y ago

>> what percentage of US students would recognize the Tuskegee experiments continued until 1972 Literally everyone who has ever had to take a medical or scientific ethics course knows this, since the IRB process was born specifically from this horrific abuse of science. I'm guessing most high schools cover it in US History and/or World History, also, as mine did.

AbitofAsum 7y ago
I went to a rather nice semi-private high school (graduated 15 years ago) and Tuskegee was not covered
- 4ntonius8lock 7y ago
  Thank you. It seems this is common knowledge in some circles. I know for a fact it isn't in others. My post was just a question as to the overall percentage. Not whether there were any Americans who knew about the experiments. Apparently asking questions and being inquisitive is bad now.

danso 7y ago

How has Tuskegee been “soft” censored by the U.S. government?

4ntonius8lock 7y ago
I never said it was the government, in fact I even specifically stated unwritten social norms. It's interesting that a straw-man is being used to attack the argument. Society is a complex system. The west has soft censorship via control systems. If you can't see any now, that is fine. But we can deduct they exist from logic. Here's an example: We can recognize the old ones. US newspapers and schools had effective censorship of, for example, the struggle of gay people in the US. The struggle was there, but it wasn't talked about. No matter the mechanisms to achieve this, it is effective soft censoring. While this doesn't exist anymore, it would be unreasonable to think we don't have similar blind sides now (I see plenty, but... that is neither here nor there, I'm going off logic)