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"Collectively organize and resist"? That's really not what Chinese politics looks like, either today or in the foreseeable future. It's not just that the vast

"Collectively organize and resist"? That's really not what Chinese politics looks like, either today or in the foreseeable future. It's not just that the vast majority of Chinese are quite apathetic about politics (though they definitely are) - most of them nowadays think the government is actually doing a pretty good job, all things considered. And they're even less inclined to think that rocking the boat in any way would be a good idea. Now, these overtly-expressed positions might change, and even quite suddenly (that's just about the only difference censorship makes - you're not going to see any gradual shifts or impending warning signs), but only if there's some sort of crisis that prompts such a change; they're not going to change on their own.

PavlovsCat 8y ago
You're basically just stating that the objective has already been achieved (not exactly a surprise with decades of murdering dissidents), and I never claimed otherwise.
nercht12 8y ago
> It's not just that the vast majority of Chinese are quite apathetic about politics (though they definitely are) What? You have a source on this? Last I checked, people were jumping out of buildings to commit suicide so the gov put nets around the bottom. Things may have gotten better, but they are far from the ideal anyone wants to live in. I think the "apathy" you're referring to is actually "resignation" to the fact that they feel they can't do anything about the problem. Their country is dying off, and all they can do is watch. Miserably sad. :..(
- hopler 8y ago
  Many countries have suicide. What has that to do with suicide victims' opinions of the national government?
- throwaway55244 8y ago
  That’s like saying, “the last I checked, Americans were shooting up schools, so there must be something wrong with democracy.” Personal economic issues aren’t always caused by politics.

PavlovsCat 8y ago

You're basically just stating that the objective has already been achieved (not exactly a surprise with decades of murdering dissidents), and I never claimed otherwise.

nercht12 8y ago

> It's not just that the vast majority of Chinese are quite apathetic about politics (though they definitely are) What? You have a source on this? Last I checked, people were jumping out of buildings to commit suicide so the gov put nets around the bottom. Things may have gotten better, but they are far from the ideal anyone wants to live in. I think the "apathy" you're referring to is actually "resignation" to the fact that they feel they can't do anything about the problem. Their country is dying off, and all they can do is watch. Miserably sad. :..(

hopler 8y ago
Many countries have suicide. What has that to do with suicide victims' opinions of the national government?
throwaway55244 8y ago
That’s like saying, “the last I checked, Americans were shooting up schools, so there must be something wrong with democracy.” Personal economic issues aren’t always caused by politics.