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China is working to silence critics of its prisonlike re-education camps
- devoply 8y agoIt's funny how much Muslims help trample the human rights of other Muslims. Whether it's the Saudis or Iranians or the Yemenis... or the Central Asians. In the West we have achieved the fabled brotherhood of the Ummah through humanism where as in most Muslim countries are out for other Muslims' blood often using Islam as a justification.
- GordonS 8y agoSorry, but I'm struggling to understand what this means, or how it relates to the article?
- devoply 8y agoKazakhstan a Muslim-majority country is helping China suppress the human rights of Muslim minorities.
- 13415 8y agoI don't know, it's the second biggest world religion, so you'd expect some people who were born into it to trample someone else's human rights. We're talking about 1.8 billion people.
- tinman40 8y agoIt’s funny how you resort to using this thread by criticizing all Muslims (over a billion people of different nationalities, politics and races) instead of recognizing the clear and evident violation of human rights that these govt. mandated internment camps have inflicted on a particular ethnic minority. Maybe we should place you in a re-education camp against your will for a few weeks and see how you feel?
- dang 8y agoReligious flamewar will get you banned here. Please do not post like this again. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: we've already had to warn you about using HN for nationalistic and ideological flamewar in the past. If you keep posting like this, we will ban the account.
- est 8y agohow is this news? China has a sophisticated government-social process to silence everything within minutes. Media surpression was one of the ruling party's long term commitments.
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- tomohawk 8y agoHow is it not news? The Chinese Communist Party, through actions such as this, shows it has no regard for human rights and will probably stop at nothing to get its way.
- philwelch 8y agoThe particulars of these incidents are news. What isn't news is the fact that totalitarian regimes have no regard for human rights. That fact is no more novel or surprising than the fact that wolves prey on other animals--though if wolves had the same power and influence as the Chinese government, maybe we'd forget about that, too.
- yellowapple 8y agoA reminder is valuable.
- ETHisso2017 8y agoI have difficulty believing the objectivity of a magazine whose editors have such a clear religious bias (and pushed compassionate conservatism, to boot). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_(magazine) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_(magazine) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Olasky https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Olasky
- lawrenceyan 8y agoIs the South China Morning Post objective enough for you?[1] Even domestically, many people are recognizing the inhumane conditions a vast majority of Uyghurs are facing right now. [1] https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/2171990/security-spending-xinjiang-soars-china-rolls-out-re-education https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/2171990/sec...
- philwelch 8y agoNobody is objective and everyone is biased. Once you accept that, you can start to price that in somewhat. If anything, it’s counter-biased for evangelical Protestants to have strong concerns for the welfare of Muslim Uyghurs.
- est31 8y agoWhere is the nerdy connection? The other anti-China thread on the front page at least is about social media [1] but this one has no connection to tech at all or science or whatever. It's purely political, and the particular issue of religious minorities suppression in Xinjiang has already been on hacker news in form of an excellent NYT a piece a few weeks back [2]. The ASML story from yesterday was beautifully on-topic for example [3]. I get it, the Chinese government is authoritarian and mean and much worse at that than the US government was in the last 30 years. But why repeat this message over and over? [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19712564 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19712564 [2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19570594 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19570594 [3]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19703909 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19703909
- selimthegrim 8y agoUh, the surveillance state imposed in Xinjiang?
- dang 8y agoArticles on HN do not need a "nerdy connection". What's on topic is stated at the beginning of the site guidelines: anything that gratifies intellectual curiosity. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- dboat 8y agoThere always seems to be a pro-China backlash in the comments of HN articles critical of China. I'm slowly coming around to the idea that this looks like an organized effort to control the narrative. What gets me most is the universal weakness of the points made in the pro-China posts. You would not have had to think very long to realize this is a reasonable submission for this site, but here you are anyway. It wouldn't stand out so much on reddit but here this stuff really sticks out like a sore thumb. Everyone with an interest in technology and freedom would be wise to pay attention to what is going on in China right now. With the opportunities presented by our rapidly changing technology, they are pioneering new and disturbing means of oppression that should be of great concern to anyone accustomed to a free society. I'm not assuming bad faith on your part, but I am asserting flatly that your post is indistinguishable from it. If you are not a part of a coordinated effort to minimize discussion of such things than I suggest you try harder to understand why other people care about them.
- Grue3 8y ago>"prisonlike re-education camps" Why the euphemism? Just call them concentration camps for ethnic minorities, which is what they are.