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It's not a hard question... Indigenous peoples have their own cultures, languages, traditions, etc. Unfortunately, colonization has oftentimes wiped out these

It's not a hard question... Indigenous peoples have their own cultures, languages, traditions, etc. Unfortunately, colonization has oftentimes wiped out these things, as said in the article: >The act implemented Japan's compulsory national education system in Hokkaido and eliminated traditional systems of Ainu land rights and claims. Over time, the Ainu were forced to give up their land and adopt Japanese customs through a series of government initiatives. >High levels of poverty and unemployment currently hinder the Ainu's social progress. The percentage of Ainu who attend high school and university is far lower than the Hokkaido average. Recognizing that the Ainu are an indigenous people is one of many steps that are necessary to create a more inclusive society so the Ainu can preserve their culture/traditions and not be forced to assimilate.

mbrumlow 7y ago
> Indigenous peoples have their own cultures, languages, traditions, etc. Unfortunately, colonization has oftentimes wiped out these things. So what? Colonization overall has brought humans much further than any st agent culture ever would have. But even then cultures are not stagnant, so to suggest these people are the same as the "first" people is silly. You really don't want culture to stand still, and preserving old cultures for the sake of them being old is also silly. They come with a lot of baggage. May of these older cultures would frown on things like race mixing, homosexuals, and trans people. Many of these older cultures also resist new medicines and technologies -- (hint, that is why they find them selves not in power). All in all the notion of preserving a "culture" is silly. If any thing we should be documenting what we can for history and moving on. I am not going to force somebody to assimilate, but I am also not going to give them special previsions to resist assimilation. Then we have to get in to what culture is. Just because somebody long long long ago did X one way we need to respect it today? That is silly. The time of how long something has been done a given way is basically what we call culture. Many of the things if we started today make you a laughing stock. For example, if I decided to not ware clothing (hey, that is how my ancestors did it and was part of their culture), I would probably be arrested. Little alone the ramifications of how poor life would be without jeans. Its not that I don't have respect for culture, its I don't have respect for practicing old culture notions in modern day. We have many examples of areas left untouched by outsiders and where the influence of "colonizers" has been shunned. And yet, I bet not a single one of those seems like a advantageous place to go live. In any case, "culture" is destroyed daily, yet nobody cares -- and that is a good thing.
- fzeroracer 7y ago
  > So what? Colonization overall has brought humans much further than any st agent culture ever would have. This is a really disturbing attempt to downplay indigenous genocide committed by colonists, the effects of which still persist today in many government laws and behaviors. You can't say it's overall 'brought us further than any other culture' because there are a number of other actions and events which propelled things further. Your logic would defend some of the worst atrocities in human history under the guise of 'furthering human society' as a whole.
  - mbrumlow 7y ago
    > This is a really disturbing attempt to downplay indigenous genocide committed by colonists. And this is a disturbing attempt to make it seem as I am saying something other than I am. I don't need to bring up the bad just because I talk about the good. Nor do I need to have make my opening statement a apology to the indigenous people, reminding everybody of things that happened in the past every two seconds. My logic does not defend or refute, it merely is a analysis of what happened and how it benefited human society today. While other events have made significant strides forward we still have a lot of evidence that shows colonizing promoted the exchange of ideas and melding of new cultures that continue to change -- mostly for the better -- today. We have a lot of evidence of places left untouched, or where colonization failed are some of the worst places with the least access to medical, education, internet, clean water, and tolerance of change and new ideas. These are the places where homosexuals, would be killed on site, where their culture still cuts the genitals of children, where voodoo can remotely kill or strike lightening on a given target, where people run around in the buff throwing spears at modern technology. Is it coincidence that all the places that were so brutally colonized also happen to be where civilization is thriving, technology and medicine are curing and making lives of the masses better very day. Part of the issue I have with topics like this is the time shifting. It seems that some people are unable to transport them selves back in time when things were different, and understanding that this was "life" back then - for good - for bad. People at one point took shits in bushes, then we tossed the shit out the window, and now we have -- in most of the places that were colonized -- modern plumbing. I am glad I don't live in times like that, and am glad that most of the worlds land is conquered and our country lines are fairly stable. Acknowledging that what we have now is good, because of things in the past is not "defending them" or is it saying I would chose them or even enjoy the fact. So please leave your personal attacks out of it, and stick to giving me solid evidence showing me I am wrong.

mbrumlow 7y ago

> Indigenous peoples have their own cultures, languages, traditions, etc. Unfortunately, colonization has oftentimes wiped out these things. So what? Colonization overall has brought humans much further than any st agent culture ever would have. But even then cultures are not stagnant, so to suggest these people are the same as the "first" people is silly. You really don't want culture to stand still, and preserving old cultures for the sake of them being old is also silly. They come with a lot of baggage. May of these older cultures would frown on things like race mixing, homosexuals, and trans people. Many of these older cultures also resist new medicines and technologies -- (hint, that is why they find them selves not in power). All in all the notion of preserving a "culture" is silly. If any thing we should be documenting what we can for history and moving on. I am not going to force somebody to assimilate, but I am also not going to give them special previsions to resist assimilation. Then we have to get in to what culture is. Just because somebody long long long ago did X one way we need to respect it today? That is silly. The time of how long something has been done a given way is basically what we call culture. Many of the things if we started today make you a laughing stock. For example, if I decided to not ware clothing (hey, that is how my ancestors did it and was part of their culture), I would probably be arrested. Little alone the ramifications of how poor life would be without jeans. Its not that I don't have respect for culture, its I don't have respect for practicing old culture notions in modern day. We have many examples of areas left untouched by outsiders and where the influence of "colonizers" has been shunned. And yet, I bet not a single one of those seems like a advantageous place to go live. In any case, "culture" is destroyed daily, yet nobody cares -- and that is a good thing.

fzeroracer 7y ago
> So what? Colonization overall has brought humans much further than any st agent culture ever would have. This is a really disturbing attempt to downplay indigenous genocide committed by colonists, the effects of which still persist today in many government laws and behaviors. You can't say it's overall 'brought us further than any other culture' because there are a number of other actions and events which propelled things further. Your logic would defend some of the worst atrocities in human history under the guise of 'furthering human society' as a whole.
- mbrumlow 7y ago
  > This is a really disturbing attempt to downplay indigenous genocide committed by colonists. And this is a disturbing attempt to make it seem as I am saying something other than I am. I don't need to bring up the bad just because I talk about the good. Nor do I need to have make my opening statement a apology to the indigenous people, reminding everybody of things that happened in the past every two seconds. My logic does not defend or refute, it merely is a analysis of what happened and how it benefited human society today. While other events have made significant strides forward we still have a lot of evidence that shows colonizing promoted the exchange of ideas and melding of new cultures that continue to change -- mostly for the better -- today. We have a lot of evidence of places left untouched, or where colonization failed are some of the worst places with the least access to medical, education, internet, clean water, and tolerance of change and new ideas. These are the places where homosexuals, would be killed on site, where their culture still cuts the genitals of children, where voodoo can remotely kill or strike lightening on a given target, where people run around in the buff throwing spears at modern technology. Is it coincidence that all the places that were so brutally colonized also happen to be where civilization is thriving, technology and medicine are curing and making lives of the masses better very day. Part of the issue I have with topics like this is the time shifting. It seems that some people are unable to transport them selves back in time when things were different, and understanding that this was "life" back then - for good - for bad. People at one point took shits in bushes, then we tossed the shit out the window, and now we have -- in most of the places that were colonized -- modern plumbing. I am glad I don't live in times like that, and am glad that most of the worlds land is conquered and our country lines are fairly stable. Acknowledging that what we have now is good, because of things in the past is not "defending them" or is it saying I would chose them or even enjoy the fact. So please leave your personal attacks out of it, and stick to giving me solid evidence showing me I am wrong.