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You think the planet reaches equilibrium a day after we stop emitting? There's quite a bit of heat capacity at planetary scale. Current anthropogenic emissions

You think the planet reaches equilibrium a day after we stop emitting? There's quite a bit of heat capacity at planetary scale. Current anthropogenic emissions may be causing melting of glaciers and warming for decades or hundreds of years to come. Chances are "they" will continue to accurately blame the 20th and 21st century emissions into the 22nd and 23rd.

no1youknowz 8y ago
Actually no, that would be folly. But I do expect at some point the planet will self correct. I think that because I remember the scare of the ozone layer back in the 80s, early 90s. Now according this article [0], in 2060 it will be completely healed. Why can't it be said for climate change? I personally don't understand any negative connotations. I can only think it will be a positive outcome. [0]: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/nov/05/ozone-layer-healing-after-aerosols-un-northern-hemisphere https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/nov/05/ozone-la...
- jeremyjh 8y ago
  The reason the ozone layer is healing is because "the scare" led to enactment of laws prohibiting the widespread usage of the chemicals that were destroying it. This is like saying Y2K was nothing but fear mongering.
  - kaybe 8y ago
    Reading the latest ozone assessment report [0] I was reminded again how impressive that reaction really was. Between deciding this really is a problem in 1985 (Vienna Convention) and banning the problematic substances (Montreal Protocol) in 1987 there are two (2!!!) years. And if you look at the plots eg on page ES.23 you can see the expected effects of the Kigali amendment of 2016, where the replacement gases used instead of the previously stopped ones with large climate effects were also banned. This is the only actually positive thing I've ever seen in the context of climate change. There are at least 0.3°C saved temperature increase until 2100 due to this change. Of course the source of that problem was simpler and easier to fix, but still, this makes me a little happier. How can we repeat this success? [0] https://ozone.unep.org/sites/default/files/Assessment_Panel/SAP-2018-Assessment-report.pdf https://ozone.unep.org/sites/default/files/Assessment_Panel/...

no1youknowz 8y ago

Actually no, that would be folly. But I do expect at some point the planet will self correct. I think that because I remember the scare of the ozone layer back in the 80s, early 90s. Now according this article [0], in 2060 it will be completely healed. Why can't it be said for climate change? I personally don't understand any negative connotations. I can only think it will be a positive outcome. [0]: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/nov/05/ozone-layer-healing-after-aerosols-un-northern-hemisphere https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/nov/05/ozone-la...

jeremyjh 8y ago
The reason the ozone layer is healing is because "the scare" led to enactment of laws prohibiting the widespread usage of the chemicals that were destroying it. This is like saying Y2K was nothing but fear mongering.
- kaybe 8y ago
  Reading the latest ozone assessment report [0] I was reminded again how impressive that reaction really was. Between deciding this really is a problem in 1985 (Vienna Convention) and banning the problematic substances (Montreal Protocol) in 1987 there are two (2!!!) years. And if you look at the plots eg on page ES.23 you can see the expected effects of the Kigali amendment of 2016, where the replacement gases used instead of the previously stopped ones with large climate effects were also banned. This is the only actually positive thing I've ever seen in the context of climate change. There are at least 0.3°C saved temperature increase until 2100 due to this change. Of course the source of that problem was simpler and easier to fix, but still, this makes me a little happier. How can we repeat this success? [0] https://ozone.unep.org/sites/default/files/Assessment_Panel/SAP-2018-Assessment-report.pdf https://ozone.unep.org/sites/default/files/Assessment_Panel/...