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Getting your password isn't as compromising as, say, getting a photo of you nude, in the security theatre-sense. Think of the OPM hack[0] and the potential for

Getting your password isn't as compromising as, say, getting a photo of you nude, in the security theatre-sense. Think of the OPM hack[0] and the potential for a foreign entity to compromise someone (that they know has a security clearance) with blackmail. This has a much larger and potentially far longer ROI than a simple compromise of a password; which probably has to be changed every 'x' days, anyways. You have to think of things like this in terms of long-term yield and not immediate results; unless we're talking crackers, then they're almost always after immediate results. [0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Personnel_Management_data_breach https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Personnel_Management...

chmod775 7y ago
> Getting your password isn't as compromising as, say, getting a photo of you nude, in the security theatre-sense. That... really depends on the society you live in and your own insecurities. Fear and prohibition surrounding the naked body is a cultural/religious thing. The most prudish US-regions are probably somewhere in the middle of central Europe and Islamic countries like Saudi Arabia. I won't generalize to the whole of the US because I know there's a wide spectrum. However US-wide media serve the lowest common denominator, spreading the unfounded phobia and taboo of nude people. Personally I couldn't give a damn whether someone has pictures of me nude. People probably do since I was bathing in the ocean naked on some occasions. I don't really want any pictures of myself on the internet (with my name), but nude or not doesn't make much of a difference to me. I'm more afraid of ending up in some facial recognition database and private companies starting to track my every move.
- XorNot 7y ago
  The tracking doesn't bother me as much as the individualization of data-mining does. The use of collected data to run unexplainable AI systems which can do things from determine how the courts treat me, to what is recommended to me, is the real threat. The problem with blackmail is it almost never happens - i.e. the profitable digital blackmail is cryptolocker. But the real negative to your life is the unaccountable compiling and production of data products which can be used to try and describe your life to others - credit ratings being mapped to internet activity or insurance rates, or digital dossiers being sold to companies to screen new hires in combination with some blackbox "risk" AI system - or surveillance cameras running people in-real time through a profiler which then re-deploys police units on the go. The risk is...not dramatic? I think is what I want to say. It's mundane - so mundane that its been creeping up on us for decades and is very gradually attacking people all because individually it all sounds reasonable.
- lrem 7y ago
  You really pricked my interest here: where do you think central Europe is exactly, especially in comparison with western and eastern?
  - bonoboTP 7y ago
    Wikipedia can help you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Europe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Europe Mostly: formerly Holy Roman and Habsburg Empires.

chmod775 7y ago

> Getting your password isn't as compromising as, say, getting a photo of you nude, in the security theatre-sense. That... really depends on the society you live in and your own insecurities. Fear and prohibition surrounding the naked body is a cultural/religious thing. The most prudish US-regions are probably somewhere in the middle of central Europe and Islamic countries like Saudi Arabia. I won't generalize to the whole of the US because I know there's a wide spectrum. However US-wide media serve the lowest common denominator, spreading the unfounded phobia and taboo of nude people. Personally I couldn't give a damn whether someone has pictures of me nude. People probably do since I was bathing in the ocean naked on some occasions. I don't really want any pictures of myself on the internet (with my name), but nude or not doesn't make much of a difference to me. I'm more afraid of ending up in some facial recognition database and private companies starting to track my every move.

XorNot 7y ago
The tracking doesn't bother me as much as the individualization of data-mining does. The use of collected data to run unexplainable AI systems which can do things from determine how the courts treat me, to what is recommended to me, is the real threat. The problem with blackmail is it almost never happens - i.e. the profitable digital blackmail is cryptolocker. But the real negative to your life is the unaccountable compiling and production of data products which can be used to try and describe your life to others - credit ratings being mapped to internet activity or insurance rates, or digital dossiers being sold to companies to screen new hires in combination with some blackbox "risk" AI system - or surveillance cameras running people in-real time through a profiler which then re-deploys police units on the go. The risk is...not dramatic? I think is what I want to say. It's mundane - so mundane that its been creeping up on us for decades and is very gradually attacking people all because individually it all sounds reasonable.
lrem 7y ago
You really pricked my interest here: where do you think central Europe is exactly, especially in comparison with western and eastern?
- bonoboTP 7y ago
  Wikipedia can help you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Europe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Europe Mostly: formerly Holy Roman and Habsburg Empires.