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Yes, they lobby. I've never said that. They are still in the transformation phase, sudden change would destroy a lot of jobs. Don't get me wrong, I support el

Yes, they lobby. I've never said that. They are still in the transformation phase, sudden change would destroy a lot of jobs. Don't get me wrong, I support electric vehicles. But before pushing it, let some car companies adjust, so we don't lose a lot of jobs in the process. To be clear: not supporting the actions of some car companies, but I don't want to destroy jobs in the process. Eg. Germany. Transformation should happen though. But I don't see much benefit of removing a lot of older cars, that already done the damage ( production + resources + while driving), by replacing them immediately with electric cars ( that have a long term benefit, not a short term. Since they use resources too)

xiphias2 8y ago
I got a disease from the toxic air pollution that I was subject to for more than 30 years in my life. Nowdays I have to travel away from Europe every year for half year, because I'm affected by the air pollution even more in winter (though heating is also a part of the reason why pollution gets so bad in winter). Millions of people are dying every year because of air pollution, but you don't see it, because it's a silent killer. It slowly takes away years from your life span. You could say that it's not worth to get rid of cigarettes from the restaurants, because they don't have short term benefits, only long term benefits, but for people who don't have a lower amount of enzymes than you to detoxify these molecules are affected immediately. As for me, I wish there would be just 1 nice city in the world that would get rid of air pollution, I would immediately move there (right now I'm in a natural park resort, but these resorts get quite boring after some time compared to a city :( ).
- orbifold 8y ago
  You can move to Spiekeroog (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiekeroog https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiekeroog), they've banned cars with very few exceptions. I'm sure there are other Islands without gasoline cars aswell.
  - xiphias2 8y ago
    Thanks, I'll visit it, I'm mostly missing a normal city life, for example dating for me is much easier in big cities. I like going to IMAX (I like to watch almost every IMAX movie for the looks), and like to go to great restaurants with special food that cities offer more. My main idea now is actually to create an apartment with very effective air cleaning, like what the laboratories use. I don't know yet if it's possible / practical, I will figure it out.
    - NicoJuicy 8y ago
      This is an entire new element to the discussion ofc. In the current capatalistic world, I'd say: wait 10 years. Which pretty much sucks as an answer for you. In Belgium, we have Wallonia. 4/5th of the country is a forest and Durbuy is getting an upgrade ( adventure, hotels,.. - lot of nature there). A lot of cities are banning the top polluting cars. I'm not sure if that information is helpful. Just a suggestion and some information to show progress. Ps. Removing sigarettes from a restaurant is feasible and already done (BE). It's not a possible economic disaster as removing traditional cars.

xiphias2 8y ago

I got a disease from the toxic air pollution that I was subject to for more than 30 years in my life. Nowdays I have to travel away from Europe every year for half year, because I'm affected by the air pollution even more in winter (though heating is also a part of the reason why pollution gets so bad in winter). Millions of people are dying every year because of air pollution, but you don't see it, because it's a silent killer. It slowly takes away years from your life span. You could say that it's not worth to get rid of cigarettes from the restaurants, because they don't have short term benefits, only long term benefits, but for people who don't have a lower amount of enzymes than you to detoxify these molecules are affected immediately. As for me, I wish there would be just 1 nice city in the world that would get rid of air pollution, I would immediately move there (right now I'm in a natural park resort, but these resorts get quite boring after some time compared to a city :( ).

orbifold 8y ago
You can move to Spiekeroog (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiekeroog https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiekeroog), they've banned cars with very few exceptions. I'm sure there are other Islands without gasoline cars aswell.
- xiphias2 8y ago
  Thanks, I'll visit it, I'm mostly missing a normal city life, for example dating for me is much easier in big cities. I like going to IMAX (I like to watch almost every IMAX movie for the looks), and like to go to great restaurants with special food that cities offer more. My main idea now is actually to create an apartment with very effective air cleaning, like what the laboratories use. I don't know yet if it's possible / practical, I will figure it out.
  - NicoJuicy 8y ago
    This is an entire new element to the discussion ofc. In the current capatalistic world, I'd say: wait 10 years. Which pretty much sucks as an answer for you. In Belgium, we have Wallonia. 4/5th of the country is a forest and Durbuy is getting an upgrade ( adventure, hotels,.. - lot of nature there). A lot of cities are banning the top polluting cars. I'm not sure if that information is helpful. Just a suggestion and some information to show progress. Ps. Removing sigarettes from a restaurant is feasible and already done (BE). It's not a possible economic disaster as removing traditional cars.