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Question I have: do you need to actually collect this information at all? I appreciate the no share, but if a service never collects it to begin with then it’s

Question I have: do you need to actually collect this information at all? I appreciate the no share, but if a service never collects it to begin with then it’s never an issue including if you get hacked for instance. I’m curious not a judgement.

EduardoBautista 8y ago
The app does need to know what your email address at gmail is in order to work.
- DarwinMailApp 8y ago
  Correct! Other than that there is no need to collect much other information at all. Google Analytics is currently how I see how users found DarwinMail & where they came from. Google Analytics also provides info such as users device and browser type. A list of the data Google Analytics collects can be found here: https://www.shivarweb.com/2977/what-does-google-analytics-do https://www.shivarweb.com/2977/what-does-google-analytics-do Google Analytics is the defacto standard for millions of websites across the web.
  - markovbot 8y ago
    Should probably mention that next you your statement about privacy. I would consider an email service that has Google analytics on it not terribly private
    - DarwinMailApp 8y ago
      It is true that using Google Analytics does sound quite overt. The question remains, how else can I see where my users are visiting from, what browsers & mobile devices are they using so that I may better tailor DarwinMail?
      - baldomo 8y ago
        I would suggest one of the alternatives listed at https://switching.social/ethical-alternatives-to-google-analytics https://switching.social/ethical-alternatives-to-google-anal... . Fathom in particular is open source and can be self hosted
        DarwinMailApp 8y ago
        Wow! Thank you for those suggestions. I've looked into Fathom before. I quite like what's offered. And the fact that's it's open source is the cherry on top :) Thank you very much for the suggestion and for giving me a direct link to check out more.
  - kryptk 8y ago
    I've dropped Google Analytics in favor of good old fashioned server log parsing with several off the shelf tools. The load times of my site, the quality of my stats and the privacy of my users have all been improved.
    - DarwinMailApp 8y ago
      That's quite interesting. I like the sound of that. Thank you for your feedback.
DarwinMailApp 8y ago
Thank you for your questions :) What information are you referring to? I would prefer to understand your question better so I can give you honest and hopefully succinct feedback :)
markdown 8y ago
> Question I have: do you need to actually collect this information at all? In the very comment you're responding to, he says "never record". In this context, this means the same as "never collect".
- DarwinMailApp 8y ago
  Hey there, thank you very much for helping out :)

EduardoBautista 8y ago

The app does need to know what your email address at gmail is in order to work.

DarwinMailApp 8y ago
Correct! Other than that there is no need to collect much other information at all. Google Analytics is currently how I see how users found DarwinMail & where they came from. Google Analytics also provides info such as users device and browser type. A list of the data Google Analytics collects can be found here: https://www.shivarweb.com/2977/what-does-google-analytics-do https://www.shivarweb.com/2977/what-does-google-analytics-do Google Analytics is the defacto standard for millions of websites across the web.
- markovbot 8y ago
  Should probably mention that next you your statement about privacy. I would consider an email service that has Google analytics on it not terribly private
  - DarwinMailApp 8y ago
    It is true that using Google Analytics does sound quite overt. The question remains, how else can I see where my users are visiting from, what browsers & mobile devices are they using so that I may better tailor DarwinMail?
    - baldomo 8y ago
      I would suggest one of the alternatives listed at https://switching.social/ethical-alternatives-to-google-analytics https://switching.social/ethical-alternatives-to-google-anal... . Fathom in particular is open source and can be self hosted
      - DarwinMailApp 8y ago
        Wow! Thank you for those suggestions. I've looked into Fathom before. I quite like what's offered. And the fact that's it's open source is the cherry on top :) Thank you very much for the suggestion and for giving me a direct link to check out more.
- kryptk 8y ago
  I've dropped Google Analytics in favor of good old fashioned server log parsing with several off the shelf tools. The load times of my site, the quality of my stats and the privacy of my users have all been improved.
  - DarwinMailApp 8y ago
    That's quite interesting. I like the sound of that. Thank you for your feedback.

DarwinMailApp 8y ago

Thank you for your questions :) What information are you referring to? I would prefer to understand your question better so I can give you honest and hopefully succinct feedback :)

markdown 8y ago

> Question I have: do you need to actually collect this information at all? In the very comment you're responding to, he says "never record". In this context, this means the same as "never collect".

DarwinMailApp 8y ago
Hey there, thank you very much for helping out :)