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Nice to bundle all Chinese people. Most of this "spies" are trying to escape China ! all the regime did was offer them more money / opportunity than what they

Nice to bundle all Chinese people. Most of this "spies" are trying to escape China ! all the regime did was offer them more money / opportunity than what they went to the West to find. China could have achieved it through "turing" normal white citizens too / but I guess they are the real patriots ? Mark Zukerburg learnt mandarin for god's sake. Its a game among capitalists and most of us regardless of nationality will switch sides to whoever gives the most value.

zarkov99 7y ago
Speak for yourself there. Not everyone is driven by money above all things.
- chrobic72j7 7y ago
  > Speak for yourself there. Not everyone is driven by money above all things. Considering most people spend 8+ hours a day working for money, I'd say yes, everyone is driven by money above all things. Just look at the millineals, I mean, excuse me, new college grads. They shit talk Facebook's ethics, but the moment they receive a $100,000 job offer from Facebook, their ethics go out the window and they accept the offer from this "shady-ass" company.
  - keiferski 7y ago
    Facebook employs about 35,000 people. The millennial generation includes about 71,000,000 people. How the former can be used by you to represent the views of the later is a mystery to me.
wavefunction 7y ago
I don't consider Mark Zuckerberg a model except for what not to do. I'd learn Mandarin because I want to communicate with Mandarin speakers.
rarecoil 7y ago
> Most of this "spies" are trying to escape China ! all the regime did was offer them more money / opportunity than what they went to the West to find. Your second sentence directly contradicts the first. The "spies" aren't escaping China - they're playing whatever side has more money to throw at them.
- princeofwands 7y ago
  It is not about money. It is about people with family in China. This is the most common pressure point that turns them. Then they have to recruit other Chinese people abroad. Anyway, like said elsewhere, spying only gets them so far. As a gross generalization: The Chinese lack the creativity and originality to further develop the stolen technology. Somehow, this seems more of a Western skill set. I suppose, because creativity and disruption takes a modicum of rebellion against the rules / authorities, and so you can't have both 996 obedience and creativity.

zarkov99 7y ago

Speak for yourself there. Not everyone is driven by money above all things.

chrobic72j7 7y ago
> Speak for yourself there. Not everyone is driven by money above all things. Considering most people spend 8+ hours a day working for money, I'd say yes, everyone is driven by money above all things. Just look at the millineals, I mean, excuse me, new college grads. They shit talk Facebook's ethics, but the moment they receive a $100,000 job offer from Facebook, their ethics go out the window and they accept the offer from this "shady-ass" company.
- keiferski 7y ago
  Facebook employs about 35,000 people. The millennial generation includes about 71,000,000 people. How the former can be used by you to represent the views of the later is a mystery to me.

wavefunction 7y ago

I don't consider Mark Zuckerberg a model except for what not to do. I'd learn Mandarin because I want to communicate with Mandarin speakers.

rarecoil 7y ago

> Most of this "spies" are trying to escape China ! all the regime did was offer them more money / opportunity than what they went to the West to find. Your second sentence directly contradicts the first. The "spies" aren't escaping China - they're playing whatever side has more money to throw at them.

princeofwands 7y ago
It is not about money. It is about people with family in China. This is the most common pressure point that turns them. Then they have to recruit other Chinese people abroad. Anyway, like said elsewhere, spying only gets them so far. As a gross generalization: The Chinese lack the creativity and originality to further develop the stolen technology. Somehow, this seems more of a Western skill set. I suppose, because creativity and disruption takes a modicum of rebellion against the rules / authorities, and so you can't have both 996 obedience and creativity.