Well the thing is, Nation states say you NEED their social contract, or things will go bad. They say it's mostly for your own protection. And there is no other

Well the thing is, Nation states say you NEED their social contract, or things will go bad. They say it's mostly for your own protection. And there is no other way. So far, for people trying to escape this contract, the main issue they have found are the very nation states that promise the need for protection and the contract. I'm not saying these guys have a better way. But I see where they are getting at. Like living in the ancient world with absolute rulers and dreaming of representative government. We know now there were better options. But at a time when representative government has never been tried, the concept just floating, people will say you need absolute rules, or what will happen? I'm sure the first time a few guys got together and decided they would do something by decree they were put to death and the history was never recorded. I'm sure those first efforts were very amateur. I think visionaries by definition have to be a bit out of touch. That is what allows them to live in a possible reality vs a normal one. I'm decidedly from this one. But I have a lot of respect for the kind of person it would take to do this thing. Not that I'd do a business venture with them. I admire vision.