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They've said this before https://twitter.com/DroidAlexandra/status/1119344110270406656 https://twitter.com/DroidAlexandra/status/111934411027040665...

ocdtrekkie 7y ago
They've never made an official statement or confirmation of what Fuchsia is intended to be used for, if anything. An Android OS dev making this statement is, in fact, significant news.
- AnimalMuppet 7y ago
  I don't think this is an official statement either...
- Someone1234 7y ago
  I don't believe she works at Google. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Edit more: From my research she is someone who has legitimately worked on an Android OS derivative, but it was at another company (Sky TV?). So she's both an Android OS Dev and a non-Google employee. Her source for Android's EOL is the articles she links in the twitter conversation. She has done nothing wrong but many people seem to have misinterpreted this as a Googler saying Android is EOL.
  - ac29 7y ago
    She doesn't work at Google, she "know[s] a lot of people from Google and/or OEMs" [0]. I'm going to have to file this under "my uncle who works at Nintendo". [0] https://twitter.com/DroidAlexandra/status/1119349584071929857 https://twitter.com/DroidAlexandra/status/111934958407192985...
- tytso 7y ago
  AlexandraSalvaterra's github page shows that she is not a member of the Github Google organization. So I don't believe she is an Android OS Dev working for Google, or that this should be considered an official statement. The articles that she linked to were old ones which have a note saying that Google denied that the speculations were true. And herself said in a later tweet that she was "putting things together" and that "5 years is a long time". And also, "Also, do keep in mind how Google sometimes randomly kills projects, and starts new ones, nothing is set in stone with Google."[1] [1] https://twitter.com/DroidAlexandra/status/1119346324867043328 https://twitter.com/DroidAlexandra/status/111934632486704332... Sounds like a poseur trolling for Twitter followers to me....
  - ocdtrekkie 7y ago
    You appear to be correct, thanks.
  - anoncareer0212 7y ago
    You're right, it was bizarre to say the least. The entire thread is full of well-sourced, accurate info, and then this tweet was thrown in, then immediately after it was accurately disclaimed. Anyone who works at a BigCo knows there's no way in hell anyone's made a decision about something 5 years out. There's a lot of risky dev between here and there I think they meant to suggest Fuchsia could replace the Linux kernel in that timeframe
    - emn13 7y ago
      I mean, I know you're suggesting the claim has no merit because the poster doesn't know what they're talking about; but you know, even if the poster were a genius with intimate knowledge of the project, a claim like this is bogus. If somebody with a modicum of common sense and software experience says some software of this kind of complexity that they're working on "can" be good enough in 5 years that basically means: it's a herculean task, and they have no clue whatsoever as to how long it's actually going to take. Also, they probably don't really know what they're really trying to do, only general aims, not actually how they're achievable. There's no way in hell anybody can plan something that novel and hugely complex, with that many people involved in an ecosystem that's constantly changing not to mention a business that's not known for its long term perseverance, with any kind of accuracy for 1 year. 5 years is a complete joke. Who knows - it might happen. It might in just 1 year. Or maybe 50. Or more likely, never. But I cannot believe that estimate to have any kind of sane grounding. The only way they're actually going to follow through on a schedule that long term is by giving up on scope and quality, which is to say - sure, something will be delivered, but perhaps nothing resembling today's expectations.
      - anoncareer0212 7y ago
        You seem to be vigorously agreeing with me beyond the first paragraph, but I must be reading you wrong?

ocdtrekkie 7y ago

They've never made an official statement or confirmation of what Fuchsia is intended to be used for, if anything. An Android OS dev making this statement is, in fact, significant news.

AnimalMuppet 7y ago
I don't think this is an official statement either...
Someone1234 7y ago
I don't believe she works at Google. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Edit more: From my research she is someone who has legitimately worked on an Android OS derivative, but it was at another company (Sky TV?). So she's both an Android OS Dev and a non-Google employee. Her source for Android's EOL is the articles she links in the twitter conversation. She has done nothing wrong but many people seem to have misinterpreted this as a Googler saying Android is EOL.
- ac29 7y ago
  She doesn't work at Google, she "know[s] a lot of people from Google and/or OEMs" [0]. I'm going to have to file this under "my uncle who works at Nintendo". [0] https://twitter.com/DroidAlexandra/status/1119349584071929857 https://twitter.com/DroidAlexandra/status/111934958407192985...
tytso 7y ago
AlexandraSalvaterra's github page shows that she is not a member of the Github Google organization. So I don't believe she is an Android OS Dev working for Google, or that this should be considered an official statement. The articles that she linked to were old ones which have a note saying that Google denied that the speculations were true. And herself said in a later tweet that she was "putting things together" and that "5 years is a long time". And also, "Also, do keep in mind how Google sometimes randomly kills projects, and starts new ones, nothing is set in stone with Google."[1] [1] https://twitter.com/DroidAlexandra/status/1119346324867043328 https://twitter.com/DroidAlexandra/status/111934632486704332... Sounds like a poseur trolling for Twitter followers to me....
- ocdtrekkie 7y ago
  You appear to be correct, thanks.
- anoncareer0212 7y ago
  You're right, it was bizarre to say the least. The entire thread is full of well-sourced, accurate info, and then this tweet was thrown in, then immediately after it was accurately disclaimed. Anyone who works at a BigCo knows there's no way in hell anyone's made a decision about something 5 years out. There's a lot of risky dev between here and there I think they meant to suggest Fuchsia could replace the Linux kernel in that timeframe
  - emn13 7y ago
    I mean, I know you're suggesting the claim has no merit because the poster doesn't know what they're talking about; but you know, even if the poster were a genius with intimate knowledge of the project, a claim like this is bogus. If somebody with a modicum of common sense and software experience says some software of this kind of complexity that they're working on "can" be good enough in 5 years that basically means: it's a herculean task, and they have no clue whatsoever as to how long it's actually going to take. Also, they probably don't really know what they're really trying to do, only general aims, not actually how they're achievable. There's no way in hell anybody can plan something that novel and hugely complex, with that many people involved in an ecosystem that's constantly changing not to mention a business that's not known for its long term perseverance, with any kind of accuracy for 1 year. 5 years is a complete joke. Who knows - it might happen. It might in just 1 year. Or maybe 50. Or more likely, never. But I cannot believe that estimate to have any kind of sane grounding. The only way they're actually going to follow through on a schedule that long term is by giving up on scope and quality, which is to say - sure, something will be delivered, but perhaps nothing resembling today's expectations.
    - anoncareer0212 7y ago
      You seem to be vigorously agreeing with me beyond the first paragraph, but I must be reading you wrong?