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Right. Of course. "The children". It's amazing how "liberal" democracies use "the children" as an excuse to spy on everyone and to take everyone's rights away.

Right. Of course. "The children". It's amazing how "liberal" democracies use "the children" as an excuse to spy on everyone and to take everyone's rights away. At least the chinese or russians are honest about their authoritarianism. And why stop at social media? Why not go all the way and just install cameras in people's home "to predict who could go missing"? Canadians must feel warm inside knowing how much Big Brother loves them and wants to look after their children.

sametmax 7y ago
It was inevitable. We kept telling people to not give away their data like that, that centralizing that much power in the GAFAS is dangerous, that somebody will abuse it. Few people listened, even fewer without labelling us as paranoid. Almost nobody cared. The problem is not that there are bad actors. Any sufficiently big and complex social system will have them. We must live with them, it's part of reality, like gravity. The problem is that the rest of the actors are not thinking a second about their life or actions. They don't build a society. They cruise through existence. This will always lead to pain.
craigzucchini 7y ago
We do have a variety of problems with internet freedom in Canada, but it's not just children that the article mentions. It's about identifying high risk individuals in general. The article also talks about potential minority bias which is something worth considering—not as a justification for anything or with any particular implication, just worth thinking about—in that in certain areas indigenous young women are going missing and are often never found or are found dead and it's a tough problem. Hugely complicated though and you can't use any particular issue to justify mass surveillance because the consequences could be immense.

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Right. Of course. "The children". It's amazing how "liberal" democracies use "the children" as an excuse to spy on everyone and to take everyone's rights away.

by basetop 7y ago

sametmax 7y ago
It was inevitable. We kept telling people to not give away their data like that, that centralizing that much power in the GAFAS is dangerous, that somebody will abuse it. Few people listened, even fewer without labelling us as paranoid. Almost nobody cared. The problem is not that there are bad actors. Any sufficiently big and complex social system will have them. We must live with them, it's part of reality, like gravity. The problem is that the rest of the actors are not thinking a second about their life or actions. They don't build a society. They cruise through existence. This will always lead to pain.
craigzucchini 7y ago
We do have a variety of problems with internet freedom in Canada, but it's not just children that the article mentions. It's about identifying high risk individuals in general. The article also talks about potential minority bias which is something worth considering—not as a justification for anything or with any particular implication, just worth thinking about—in that in certain areas indigenous young women are going missing and are often never found or are found dead and it's a tough problem. Hugely complicated though and you can't use any particular issue to justify mass surveillance because the consequences could be immense.