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> I see it it is an un-designed un-principled heap of low-quality software why would anyone attempt to have a reasonable discussion with you when you lead with

> I see it it is an un-designed un-principled heap of low-quality software why would anyone attempt to have a reasonable discussion with you when you lead with such a misinformed "opinion"

AnthonBerg 7y ago
It is an opinion. The quotes are unnecessary. I base the opinion on decades of extensive Windows, Linux, and macOS use as well as software development on all platforms. I have a BSc in computer science. My humble and earnest opinion is that Windows is poorly designed. The thought model behind it appears to me as inconsistent, and this also manifests in how we use it. We can do better and deserve better. If it is your opinion that this is misinformed, where would you recommend that people with opinions on Windows similar to mine could go and could inform themselves better? Here’s another perspective: Is it more secure, less secure, or the same, if I run Windows in an enclosed VM and roll back any action which might have side effects I don’t want? I’d think that it was hard to argue anything other than it being more secure. And that reveals my point: In a better designed system it wouldn’t matter.
- mfatica 7y ago
  Can you describe to me which elements of the thought model you find are inconsistent? As far as where you could go to learn more, I think this book has much of the information you would be interested in, although I'm not entirely sure yet which specific elements of the operating system you're focused on. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/learn/windows-internals https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/learn/windows-... > if I run Windows in an enclosed VM and roll back any action which might have side effects I don’t want I see this as a separate argument for using VMs. The stated use applies to any operating system and I agree it's more secure and a good idea. Can you do the equivalent in other operating systems with a simpler procedure? This is a genuine question, I'm ignorant to that

> I see it it is an un-designed un-principled heap of low-quality software why would anyone attempt to have a reasonable discussion with you when you lead with such a misinformed "opinion"

AnthonBerg 7y ago

It is an opinion. The quotes are unnecessary. I base the opinion on decades of extensive Windows, Linux, and macOS use as well as software development on all platforms. I have a BSc in computer science. My humble and earnest opinion is that Windows is poorly designed. The thought model behind it appears to me as inconsistent, and this also manifests in how we use it. We can do better and deserve better. If it is your opinion that this is misinformed, where would you recommend that people with opinions on Windows similar to mine could go and could inform themselves better? Here’s another perspective: Is it more secure, less secure, or the same, if I run Windows in an enclosed VM and roll back any action which might have side effects I don’t want? I’d think that it was hard to argue anything other than it being more secure. And that reveals my point: In a better designed system it wouldn’t matter.

mfatica 7y ago
Can you describe to me which elements of the thought model you find are inconsistent? As far as where you could go to learn more, I think this book has much of the information you would be interested in, although I'm not entirely sure yet which specific elements of the operating system you're focused on. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/learn/windows-internals https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/learn/windows-... > if I run Windows in an enclosed VM and roll back any action which might have side effects I don’t want I see this as a separate argument for using VMs. The stated use applies to any operating system and I agree it's more secure and a good idea. Can you do the equivalent in other operating systems with a simpler procedure? This is a genuine question, I'm ignorant to that