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Probably the same person who approved Apple pencil 1 charging...

by m_mueller 8y ago

coldtea 8y ago
Haha, that's even worse yeah. The easiest way to break the end!
threeseed 8y ago
Apple Pencil 1 actually came with an adapter to charge it. I take it you've never used it before.
- coldtea 8y ago
  I take it you've never read Apple's instructions before: "To charge your Apple Pencil (1st generation), PLUG YOUR Apple Pencil INTO THE Lightning connector ON YOUR iPad. You can ALSO charge it with a USB Power Adapter by using the Apple Pencil Charging Adapter that came with your Apple Pencil." Emphasis mine. Apple not only designed this BS way to charge, but also promoted it as the canonical way on their official docs (even on their videos).
  - sethammons 8y ago
    I'm not following, why emphasise the words you did? Reminds me of Austin Powers not being able to control the volume of his voice.
    - coldtea 8y ago
      Because (a) the emphasised parts describe the very method the parent said isn't how you're supposed to charge the Apple Pencil (b) they show what Apple not only recommends this method, but recommends it firat and without any qualifications, whereas what the parent said it the "canonical" way is mentioned as an aside qualified by "you can also". I could just paste the whole excerpt, but I wanted to "rub the relevant part "in the face", so to speak. I take it you are familiar with the concept of adding emphasis to a statement to highlight some part, right? If you're asking for the specific use of caps, it's because italics don't look very well in HN, and I can't bold IIRC.
      - sethammons 8y ago
        Apparently I've been flagged and I'm having trouble finding the parent comment. What I recall was "YOUR" also emphasised, and I did not follow why. Underscores around the word also work for emphasise.
- ricardobeat 8y ago
  I only found about the adapter after almost a year of owning the 1st gen. By then I was already desperate to switch to the new, vastly improved design. It was just a terrible idea, no excuses. Requiring a dongle only adds insult to injury.
- bluesquared 8y ago
  Right! This is one of my biggest peeves with anti-Apple complainers...there are a few legitimate complaints with some of Apple's current designs but this isn't one! Apple Pencil 2 wireless charging nonwithstanding, this is the better design. Plugging in to your iPad is much better than having to dig out a cable, plug it into the Pencil, plug the other end somewhere else. Just think when your Pencil dies, which is more convenient?
  - coldtea 8y ago
    >Just think when your Pencil dies, which is more convenient? Just think, when your Pencil plug end snaps, because it was protruding from the end of the iPad and you've dropped it, or hit something, or made a sudden move, etc, how convenient would that be? It's a bad design, end of story.
    - artimaeis 8y ago
      Do you feel like the design of the 2nd generation Pencil for the 3rd generation iPad is _better_? Personally I don't like moving from Lightning to a more-proprietary non-standard magnetic interface. I think the first generation Pencil has a much better design in this regard, since now we have it working with the standard iPad and iPad Air. But, I think the design of the first generation Pencil is pretty good, so I'm curious of your thoughts since you find it to be a bad design.
      - coldtea 8y ago
        >Do you feel like the design of the 2nd generation Pencil for the 3rd generation iPad is _better_? Yeah, very much so. Both the charging and also the better grip. >Personally I don't like moving from Lightning to a more-proprietary non-standard magnetic interface. That's a non issue with the Apple Pencil, because it's already a proprietary product itself, inherently tied to the iPad. It's not like it's a cross-product/cross-platform device, and needs a standard charging interface. You'll need an iPad to use it in the first place, so might as well charge it with one.

Probably the same person who approved Apple pencil 1 charging...

coldtea 8y ago

Haha, that's even worse yeah. The easiest way to break the end!

threeseed 8y ago

Apple Pencil 1 actually came with an adapter to charge it. I take it you've never used it before.

coldtea 8y ago
I take it you've never read Apple's instructions before: "To charge your Apple Pencil (1st generation), PLUG YOUR Apple Pencil INTO THE Lightning connector ON YOUR iPad. You can ALSO charge it with a USB Power Adapter by using the Apple Pencil Charging Adapter that came with your Apple Pencil." Emphasis mine. Apple not only designed this BS way to charge, but also promoted it as the canonical way on their official docs (even on their videos).
- sethammons 8y ago
  I'm not following, why emphasise the words you did? Reminds me of Austin Powers not being able to control the volume of his voice.
  - coldtea 8y ago
    Because (a) the emphasised parts describe the very method the parent said isn't how you're supposed to charge the Apple Pencil (b) they show what Apple not only recommends this method, but recommends it firat and without any qualifications, whereas what the parent said it the "canonical" way is mentioned as an aside qualified by "you can also". I could just paste the whole excerpt, but I wanted to "rub the relevant part "in the face", so to speak. I take it you are familiar with the concept of adding emphasis to a statement to highlight some part, right? If you're asking for the specific use of caps, it's because italics don't look very well in HN, and I can't bold IIRC.
    - sethammons 8y ago
      Apparently I've been flagged and I'm having trouble finding the parent comment. What I recall was "YOUR" also emphasised, and I did not follow why. Underscores around the word also work for emphasise.
ricardobeat 8y ago
I only found about the adapter after almost a year of owning the 1st gen. By then I was already desperate to switch to the new, vastly improved design. It was just a terrible idea, no excuses. Requiring a dongle only adds insult to injury.
bluesquared 8y ago
Right! This is one of my biggest peeves with anti-Apple complainers...there are a few legitimate complaints with some of Apple's current designs but this isn't one! Apple Pencil 2 wireless charging nonwithstanding, this is the better design. Plugging in to your iPad is much better than having to dig out a cable, plug it into the Pencil, plug the other end somewhere else. Just think when your Pencil dies, which is more convenient?
- coldtea 8y ago
  >Just think when your Pencil dies, which is more convenient? Just think, when your Pencil plug end snaps, because it was protruding from the end of the iPad and you've dropped it, or hit something, or made a sudden move, etc, how convenient would that be? It's a bad design, end of story.
  - artimaeis 8y ago
    Do you feel like the design of the 2nd generation Pencil for the 3rd generation iPad is _better_? Personally I don't like moving from Lightning to a more-proprietary non-standard magnetic interface. I think the first generation Pencil has a much better design in this regard, since now we have it working with the standard iPad and iPad Air. But, I think the design of the first generation Pencil is pretty good, so I'm curious of your thoughts since you find it to be a bad design.
    - coldtea 8y ago
      >Do you feel like the design of the 2nd generation Pencil for the 3rd generation iPad is _better_? Yeah, very much so. Both the charging and also the better grip. >Personally I don't like moving from Lightning to a more-proprietary non-standard magnetic interface. That's a non issue with the Apple Pencil, because it's already a proprietary product itself, inherently tied to the iPad. It's not like it's a cross-product/cross-platform device, and needs a standard charging interface. You'll need an iPad to use it in the first place, so might as well charge it with one.