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Woa. For the X1 Carbon, Lenovo actually designed ducts to channel accidental water ingress away from the important parts. It's kind of sad that Apple gets away

Woa. For the X1 Carbon, Lenovo actually designed ducts to channel accidental water ingress away from the important parts. It's kind of sad that Apple gets away with just focusing on the glitzy externals - and that their plethora customers don't care.

jinushaun 8y ago
They do care, but Apple has a monopoly on making MacOS hardware and people are unable to “vote with their wallet”. Same thing with iPhones and the headphone jack.
- threeseed 8y ago
  You can buy a Lightning to 3.5mm adapter off eBay for $2. And not sure if you've looked around your particular city but most people are using wireless headphones these days.
- swah 8y ago
  Though on that front I feel like they did the Appleish thing: had an excuse to remove the jack (waterproofing), moved the industry in the direction they wanted, released a product that everyone loves (AirPods).
  - sundvor 8y ago
    That excuse doesn't really hold water though. The S10 still has it, and is arguably every bit as "killer" as the new iPhones. It's more like cost cutting / engineering laziness dressed up as being progressive.
rayiner 8y ago
Lenovo (I’ve got an X1 Carbon) has no room to talk about shoddy QA: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/lenovo-laptop-quality-control-issues,37510.html https://www.tomshardware.com/news/lenovo-laptop-quality-cont...
- sundvor 8y ago
  Thanks. My first actually had a gap in the corner, but no issues getting that replaced. It allowed me to go from the i5/8/256 to the i7/8/256 as the latter wasn't available when I ordered - i7 was only with 4gb. I shall certainly be wary when I do get around to upgrading this one. Lenovo Australia are pretty easy to deal with though, fortunately.
bluedino 8y ago
You can famously pour water into a Thinkpad keyboard without any damage. Try that with a Coke or fancy Starbucks drink and you'll have sticky residue that requires you to replace the keyboard or clean it very, very thouroughly.

jinushaun 8y ago

They do care, but Apple has a monopoly on making MacOS hardware and people are unable to “vote with their wallet”. Same thing with iPhones and the headphone jack.

threeseed 8y ago
You can buy a Lightning to 3.5mm adapter off eBay for $2. And not sure if you've looked around your particular city but most people are using wireless headphones these days.
swah 8y ago
Though on that front I feel like they did the Appleish thing: had an excuse to remove the jack (waterproofing), moved the industry in the direction they wanted, released a product that everyone loves (AirPods).
- sundvor 8y ago
  That excuse doesn't really hold water though. The S10 still has it, and is arguably every bit as "killer" as the new iPhones. It's more like cost cutting / engineering laziness dressed up as being progressive.

rayiner 8y ago

Lenovo (I’ve got an X1 Carbon) has no room to talk about shoddy QA: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/lenovo-laptop-quality-control-issues,37510.html https://www.tomshardware.com/news/lenovo-laptop-quality-cont...

sundvor 8y ago
Thanks. My first actually had a gap in the corner, but no issues getting that replaced. It allowed me to go from the i5/8/256 to the i7/8/256 as the latter wasn't available when I ordered - i7 was only with 4gb. I shall certainly be wary when I do get around to upgrading this one. Lenovo Australia are pretty easy to deal with though, fortunately.

bluedino 8y ago

You can famously pour water into a Thinkpad keyboard without any damage. Try that with a Coke or fancy Starbucks drink and you'll have sticky residue that requires you to replace the keyboard or clean it very, very thouroughly.