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FaceCash (http://www.facecash.com http://www.facecash.com) should be in the list, too. We're not international yet, however.

vog 16y ago
This is a nice addition to the list. However, their main site takes about 13 seconds to load. This is quite slow for a company that advertises their service to be "quick like a fox".
- thinkcomp 16y ago
  On my machine, it took 1.47 seconds according to Firebug. Where are you located?
  - troutwine 16y ago
    Rochester, NY. I took ~7 seconds to load.
  - yuvipanda 16y ago
    ~15 seconds, but I'm halfway around the world (India)
  - smokinn 16y ago
    It took about 18 seconds to get a response from the server and about 25 to load the page completely. Montreal, Canada
  - carbocation 16y ago
    10 seconds until first response, 23 seconds until completely rendered on mbit connection in NV.
  - rimantas 16y ago
    Guys, if you are interested just drop me a line (email in profile) and will give client-side optimized versions of you front page and one of the content pages with explanation what was done and why for free.
    - thinkcomp 16y ago
      Thanks for the offer. I could be wrong but I think our page is fairly optimized at this point--I think any delay may be DNS-related since the majority of it seems to occur while the domain is resolving. Not sure what's up with that...
      - vog 16y ago
        > but I think our page is fairly optimized at this point I took a quick look via Firebug/Networking on your site: 31 sub requests, of which 5 form a chain so they can't load in parallel. The server at www.facecash.com waits 2.5 seconds before it sends back the content (this is not DNS waiting time!). On s.facecash.com which you use for the other page components, those are just 0.2 seconds. The page has 409 KB in total, of which 97 KB are JavaScript code and 135 KB are the main picture (home1.jpg). This big picture changes on each request, smashing the browser caching and ensuring subsequent page reloads will be slow, too. WTF?! You should really overcome your ego and to make use of the offer given to you. > I think any delay may be DNS-related Here in Germany, your domain resolves within a few milliseconds. However, your whole site takes 12-13 seconds to load. (FWIW, I have a 16 MBit internet connection) You'll have to learn a lot about basic things like: how to compress images properly, how to decrease web server latency, how to get JS code out of the critical path, how to ensure proper cache use on client side, etc. Don't get me wrong: It is perfectly okay if a young company's system isn't fully optimized. That's fine, nobody expects this. But if you claim to be "quick like a fox" and to be "fairly optimized at this point", you're saying that you think you are fast enough, so customers can't hope you'll be willing to improve your speed much in the future. And that is a problem, unless you were really optimized, which you aren't.
        thinkcomp 16y ago
        I do appreciate your suggestions, but this doesn't have anything to do with my ego. I took up the volunteer above (whose name I don't know) on his offer. Meanwhile, the site is fairly optimized. That doesn't mean everything is perfect, but it's not like we've totally ignored speed either. You may think the site is slow, but were it not for a lot of details you've ignored, it would be far slower. All I'm saying is that a lot of work has gone into this and you don't have to imply that we're idiots. Also, 400K isn't all that much; one of our competitors sends over 4.2MB on their home page alone and it's a very professionally-done site. Aside from all of that, if our server configuration needs more looking at, we'll look at it. It's great to have constructive criticism like the points contained in your comment, but had it been written without the sarcasm and small insults I would have found it that much more compelling.
  - Seth_Kriticos 16y ago
    Took like forever here >5sec here (Europe). And once connection was established the elements also built up peace by peace. Reminded me of the 90's. (no offense)
  - Xuzz 16y ago
    Only about three seconds here. Located in San Francisco.
jasonkester 16y ago
As somebody who has no idea what you're talking about with "no stickers no squares" on you homepage, I'd suggest you rewrite your tagline so that first time visitors can parse it. "pay for stuff with FaceCash" seems to be what you're all about, right? Why start off by telling us about things you're not. Especially when we don't get your inside references about those things.
Estragon 16y ago
This is very interesting. What is the purpose of the Wallet Card feature? I would have expected most merchants/authorities to be kind of squicked by someone showing up with just the data from a card and not the card itself, so it seems like an extra potential vulnerability without much upside...

vog 16y ago

This is a nice addition to the list. However, their main site takes about 13 seconds to load. This is quite slow for a company that advertises their service to be "quick like a fox".

thinkcomp 16y ago
On my machine, it took 1.47 seconds according to Firebug. Where are you located?
- troutwine 16y ago
  Rochester, NY. I took ~7 seconds to load.
- yuvipanda 16y ago
  ~15 seconds, but I'm halfway around the world (India)
- smokinn 16y ago
  It took about 18 seconds to get a response from the server and about 25 to load the page completely. Montreal, Canada
- carbocation 16y ago
  10 seconds until first response, 23 seconds until completely rendered on mbit connection in NV.
- rimantas 16y ago
  Guys, if you are interested just drop me a line (email in profile) and will give client-side optimized versions of you front page and one of the content pages with explanation what was done and why for free.
  - thinkcomp 16y ago
    Thanks for the offer. I could be wrong but I think our page is fairly optimized at this point--I think any delay may be DNS-related since the majority of it seems to occur while the domain is resolving. Not sure what's up with that...
    - vog 16y ago
      > but I think our page is fairly optimized at this point I took a quick look via Firebug/Networking on your site: 31 sub requests, of which 5 form a chain so they can't load in parallel. The server at www.facecash.com waits 2.5 seconds before it sends back the content (this is not DNS waiting time!). On s.facecash.com which you use for the other page components, those are just 0.2 seconds. The page has 409 KB in total, of which 97 KB are JavaScript code and 135 KB are the main picture (home1.jpg). This big picture changes on each request, smashing the browser caching and ensuring subsequent page reloads will be slow, too. WTF?! You should really overcome your ego and to make use of the offer given to you. > I think any delay may be DNS-related Here in Germany, your domain resolves within a few milliseconds. However, your whole site takes 12-13 seconds to load. (FWIW, I have a 16 MBit internet connection) You'll have to learn a lot about basic things like: how to compress images properly, how to decrease web server latency, how to get JS code out of the critical path, how to ensure proper cache use on client side, etc. Don't get me wrong: It is perfectly okay if a young company's system isn't fully optimized. That's fine, nobody expects this. But if you claim to be "quick like a fox" and to be "fairly optimized at this point", you're saying that you think you are fast enough, so customers can't hope you'll be willing to improve your speed much in the future. And that is a problem, unless you were really optimized, which you aren't.
      - thinkcomp 16y ago
        I do appreciate your suggestions, but this doesn't have anything to do with my ego. I took up the volunteer above (whose name I don't know) on his offer. Meanwhile, the site is fairly optimized. That doesn't mean everything is perfect, but it's not like we've totally ignored speed either. You may think the site is slow, but were it not for a lot of details you've ignored, it would be far slower. All I'm saying is that a lot of work has gone into this and you don't have to imply that we're idiots. Also, 400K isn't all that much; one of our competitors sends over 4.2MB on their home page alone and it's a very professionally-done site. Aside from all of that, if our server configuration needs more looking at, we'll look at it. It's great to have constructive criticism like the points contained in your comment, but had it been written without the sarcasm and small insults I would have found it that much more compelling.
- Seth_Kriticos 16y ago
  Took like forever here >5sec here (Europe). And once connection was established the elements also built up peace by peace. Reminded me of the 90's. (no offense)
- Xuzz 16y ago
  Only about three seconds here. Located in San Francisco.

jasonkester 16y ago

As somebody who has no idea what you're talking about with "no stickers no squares" on you homepage, I'd suggest you rewrite your tagline so that first time visitors can parse it. "pay for stuff with FaceCash" seems to be what you're all about, right? Why start off by telling us about things you're not. Especially when we don't get your inside references about those things.

Estragon 16y ago

This is very interesting. What is the purpose of the Wallet Card feature? I would have expected most merchants/authorities to be kind of squicked by someone showing up with just the data from a card and not the card itself, so it seems like an extra potential vulnerability without much upside...