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Why do you want your phone charge to last more than a day? Can't you just charge it while you sleep?

misterprime 8y ago
Sleeping in the middle of nowhere to enjoy some stargazing perhaps? Stuck in an airport overnight? Long term local power outage? There are nice things about long lasting batteries.
- freehunter 8y ago
  And for all of those things, external battery packs exist that you can carry with you. To anyone who complains that they won't be happy until the perfect device exists that meets all their needs and nothing they don't and doesn't need adapters or dongles to do it: I still use serial cables at least once a month. Do you hear me complaining that I can't find a laptop that includes a serial port? No. Because I recognize that my need is niche and adapters exist to fulfill that need. It doesn't need to be baked into a mass-market device. I'm an adult and can solve my own problems with readily-available tools.
  - adrianhel 8y ago
    <satire> I still use PDAs when I need a portable computer. Do you hear me complaining about that? No. Because I recognize that my need is niche and PDAs exist to fulfill my need. It doesn't need to be baked into a mass market device. I'm an adult that can bring both a phone and a PDA. </satire>
  - JohnFen 8y ago
    > To anyone who complains that they won't be happy until the perfect device exists that meets all their needs and nothing they don't and doesn't need adapters or dongles to do it I think the point of frustration is that phones used to address most or all of these needs, and now they don't. So it can clearly be done.
    - freehunter 8y ago
      Yes, phones used to satisfy the multi-day battery life needs. Smartphones never did, at least not mass-market smartphones. There were some smartphones that offered massive battery life but they didn't sell well enough to make it profitable to keep making them. Same with two USB connections. Maybe one existed, but it wasn't a big seller so it was discontinued. Headphone jacks still exist, but phones without them aren't really selling worse so who knows what the future holds. You know what sells? Mass market phones that meet everyone's needs and accessories that meet everyone's desires. Want longer battery life? Get any off-the-shelf mass market phone and pair it with a portable battery pack. Done. Want louder speakers? Get any off-the-shelf mass market phone and pair it with a Bluetooth speaker. Want a serial port? Buy any mass-market off-the-shelf laptop and a serial port adapter. Because the next stop after "I demand a phone with loud speakers, multi-day battery life, and a headphone jack" is "no, that one is too expensive" or "no that one is running the wrong OS" or "no that one doesn't have a big enough screen" or "no that one charges with the wrong cable". The next stop is the millions of reasons to not buy exactly what you asked for. People here demand every product be exactly perfectly tailored to their own desires and no one else's and get offended when a device fits their needs but misses one or two of their desires, but also get offended when a product is released that fits someone else's needs and desires because it doesn't perfectly fit their own needs and desires. "It can clearly be done" so why aren't you using a Moto G7 Power with its massive battery? Because this reason and that reason and the other reason because there is no way to make a device that satisfies every one of your desires. So why are you pretending that there aren't accessories available to satisfy every one of your desires... unless one of your desires is to just endlessly complain about modern technology?
      - JohnFen 8y ago
        > You know what sells? Mass market phones that meet everyone's needs Yes, but as of late, those don't exist. At least, none that meet many of my needs. > why aren't you using a Moto G7 Power with its massive battery? The battery is an important issue, but not the most important to me. I could compromise on battery life for devices that met my other needs. I've also decided to bail on commercial smartphones entirely and build my own. I could no longer find a commercial smartphone that was an acceptable compromise for me, and I'm also very much looking forward to no longer having to deal with the Android OS.
ethbro 8y ago
As a Motorola lover, multi-day charge is awesome. Sometimes you forget to charge your phone. No problem! Battery's good until you get to a charger sometime the following day. Also, an oversized battery / efficient chip means I can power-use my phone for a full day without worrying about battery. And finally, because as your battery loses capacity over time, your phone drifts back to one-day charge, not sub-day charge.
- adrianhel 8y ago
  My Huawei Mate 20 Lite lasts about 2-3 days. Pretty common for new phones I think.
  - jvagner 8y ago
    i only charge my iPhone XR every 2-2.5 days. but i don't commute, and i sit at my desk 4-5 hours/day. when i charge (wirelessly), the phone's right in front of me.
- mrguyorama 8y ago
  I was spoiled by a Droid Turbo. Now I can't buy anything with less than 3500mAh of battery, which severely limits my options. Too bad Motorola phones never get software updates and are super locked down
  - Sohcahtoa82 8y ago
    Not to mention the latest offerings by Motorola have been lackluster. I, too, loved my Droid Turbo. When I first got it, I remember driving from San Diego to the north edge of the Los Angeles metro area over about four hours using Waze. 4 hours of screen and GPS time and it only used about 40% of the battery. But after 3 years, 1 hour of Waze would consume 25% of the battery. The battery would barely last me a day, and if I was somewhere where I wanted to take a decent number of pictures, it wouldn't last more than a couple hours. I bought a replacement battery, but even though the battery was new, it was built years ago and was still slightly degraded. I ended up buying a Pixel 3. The battery is only 3,000 mAh IIRC, but it's quite efficient. I usually finish my day with about 30-50% of the battery left depending on my usage. Of course, it'll be a different story in 2-3 years.
yason 8y ago
My OnePlus 6 lasts about four days, with each charging cycle containing a few hours of speaking, checking random stuff on the web, and using instant messaging and occasional photo shooting. I really, really don't miss the era of early smartphones that barely made it through the day and when their charge went low they died pretty quickly. I've gone to bed several times with less than 10% battery left, woke up with 2-3% left in the morning, realised the battery is dying and put it charging during breakfast. Back to at least 80-90% when I'm leaving and thus good for another three days.
JohnFen 8y ago
I would love a phone that I didn't have to charge every day. My life is too full of stuff that I have to remember to charge frequently as it is. Less of that would be great.
sandworm101 8y ago
Im in the military. Sometimes I sleep places that dont have charge points.

Sleeping in the middle of nowhere to enjoy some stargazing perhaps? Stuck in an airport overnight? Long term local power outage? There are nice things about long lasting batteries.

freehunter 8y ago
And for all of those things, external battery packs exist that you can carry with you. To anyone who complains that they won't be happy until the perfect device exists that meets all their needs and nothing they don't and doesn't need adapters or dongles to do it: I still use serial cables at least once a month. Do you hear me complaining that I can't find a laptop that includes a serial port? No. Because I recognize that my need is niche and adapters exist to fulfill that need. It doesn't need to be baked into a mass-market device. I'm an adult and can solve my own problems with readily-available tools.
- adrianhel 8y ago
  <satire> I still use PDAs when I need a portable computer. Do you hear me complaining about that? No. Because I recognize that my need is niche and PDAs exist to fulfill my need. It doesn't need to be baked into a mass market device. I'm an adult that can bring both a phone and a PDA. </satire>
- JohnFen 8y ago
  > To anyone who complains that they won't be happy until the perfect device exists that meets all their needs and nothing they don't and doesn't need adapters or dongles to do it I think the point of frustration is that phones used to address most or all of these needs, and now they don't. So it can clearly be done.
  - freehunter 8y ago
    Yes, phones used to satisfy the multi-day battery life needs. Smartphones never did, at least not mass-market smartphones. There were some smartphones that offered massive battery life but they didn't sell well enough to make it profitable to keep making them. Same with two USB connections. Maybe one existed, but it wasn't a big seller so it was discontinued. Headphone jacks still exist, but phones without them aren't really selling worse so who knows what the future holds. You know what sells? Mass market phones that meet everyone's needs and accessories that meet everyone's desires. Want longer battery life? Get any off-the-shelf mass market phone and pair it with a portable battery pack. Done. Want louder speakers? Get any off-the-shelf mass market phone and pair it with a Bluetooth speaker. Want a serial port? Buy any mass-market off-the-shelf laptop and a serial port adapter. Because the next stop after "I demand a phone with loud speakers, multi-day battery life, and a headphone jack" is "no, that one is too expensive" or "no that one is running the wrong OS" or "no that one doesn't have a big enough screen" or "no that one charges with the wrong cable". The next stop is the millions of reasons to not buy exactly what you asked for. People here demand every product be exactly perfectly tailored to their own desires and no one else's and get offended when a device fits their needs but misses one or two of their desires, but also get offended when a product is released that fits someone else's needs and desires because it doesn't perfectly fit their own needs and desires. "It can clearly be done" so why aren't you using a Moto G7 Power with its massive battery? Because this reason and that reason and the other reason because there is no way to make a device that satisfies every one of your desires. So why are you pretending that there aren't accessories available to satisfy every one of your desires... unless one of your desires is to just endlessly complain about modern technology?
    - JohnFen 8y ago
      > You know what sells? Mass market phones that meet everyone's needs Yes, but as of late, those don't exist. At least, none that meet many of my needs. > why aren't you using a Moto G7 Power with its massive battery? The battery is an important issue, but not the most important to me. I could compromise on battery life for devices that met my other needs. I've also decided to bail on commercial smartphones entirely and build my own. I could no longer find a commercial smartphone that was an acceptable compromise for me, and I'm also very much looking forward to no longer having to deal with the Android OS.

ethbro 8y ago

As a Motorola lover, multi-day charge is awesome. Sometimes you forget to charge your phone. No problem! Battery's good until you get to a charger sometime the following day. Also, an oversized battery / efficient chip means I can power-use my phone for a full day without worrying about battery. And finally, because as your battery loses capacity over time, your phone drifts back to one-day charge, not sub-day charge.

adrianhel 8y ago
My Huawei Mate 20 Lite lasts about 2-3 days. Pretty common for new phones I think.
- jvagner 8y ago
  i only charge my iPhone XR every 2-2.5 days. but i don't commute, and i sit at my desk 4-5 hours/day. when i charge (wirelessly), the phone's right in front of me.
mrguyorama 8y ago
I was spoiled by a Droid Turbo. Now I can't buy anything with less than 3500mAh of battery, which severely limits my options. Too bad Motorola phones never get software updates and are super locked down
- Sohcahtoa82 8y ago
  Not to mention the latest offerings by Motorola have been lackluster. I, too, loved my Droid Turbo. When I first got it, I remember driving from San Diego to the north edge of the Los Angeles metro area over about four hours using Waze. 4 hours of screen and GPS time and it only used about 40% of the battery. But after 3 years, 1 hour of Waze would consume 25% of the battery. The battery would barely last me a day, and if I was somewhere where I wanted to take a decent number of pictures, it wouldn't last more than a couple hours. I bought a replacement battery, but even though the battery was new, it was built years ago and was still slightly degraded. I ended up buying a Pixel 3. The battery is only 3,000 mAh IIRC, but it's quite efficient. I usually finish my day with about 30-50% of the battery left depending on my usage. Of course, it'll be a different story in 2-3 years.

yason 8y ago

My OnePlus 6 lasts about four days, with each charging cycle containing a few hours of speaking, checking random stuff on the web, and using instant messaging and occasional photo shooting. I really, really don't miss the era of early smartphones that barely made it through the day and when their charge went low they died pretty quickly. I've gone to bed several times with less than 10% battery left, woke up with 2-3% left in the morning, realised the battery is dying and put it charging during breakfast. Back to at least 80-90% when I'm leaving and thus good for another three days.

JohnFen 8y ago

I would love a phone that I didn't have to charge every day. My life is too full of stuff that I have to remember to charge frequently as it is. Less of that would be great.

sandworm101 8y ago

Im in the military. Sometimes I sleep places that dont have charge points.