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Antifa. They promote and engage in violence all of the time. You can say x is y times worse, but violent/hateful groups are violent/hateful groups and should be
by cronix 8y ago
Antifa. They promote and engage in violence all of the time. You can say x is y times worse, but violent/hateful groups are violent/hateful groups and should be treated equally. They've even been labeled a terrorist organization, but still, for some reason, have free reign over most cities.
- cannonedhamster 8y agoFree reign except for the police targeting them, refusing to protect them, actively protecting proud boys, and having numerous examples of police supporting white power movements.
- cronix 8y agoIn Portland, it's the citizens that the police refuse to protect. They let antifa and proud boys duke it out, while the regular people without a bone in the fight are left to defend themselves. Literally sit there a block away watching as antifa steps into the streets, redirects traffic, and beats citizens and cars that don't obey their instructions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq-dcJrnGTM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq-dcJrnGTM
- wDcBKgt66V8WDs 8y agoBut that's exactly my point. Antifa is definitely a bad thing, but it is literally a response to the other side. If right wing extremists didn't exist FIRST, antifa wouldn't exist AT ALL. If nationalist extremists don't exist, antifa has nothing to fight. edit: to be clear, I think antifa etc should be banned as well and I do not condone their actions or think they are a good response. But they didn't start the problem. They haven't killed dozens of people on multiple continents.
- Fellshard 8y agoOr they will invent enemies where none exist, or they will expand the boundaries of who qualifies as an enemy. There are other routes for this kind of group to appear and stay in motion.
- dsfyu404ed 8y agoLetting violent groups that hate everyone who doesn't line up with them persist because they're fighting people we don't like more has not had a successful track record.
- cronix 8y agoIllegal violent responses are still illegal and not justifiable. It doesn't matter who did it first or started it. If that is the prevailing attitude, I think we're in for a really large battle where everybody will lose. Antifa is turning the public against them, because it's affecting regular average people who don't want a part of this fight. Most of us just want to be able to visit downtown, shop, and walk around with our families in peace.