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Surveillance cameras everywhere are bad enough, now we want to bug our children? This madness needs to end. Watched people are not free people.
by jak92 7y ago
Surveillance cameras everywhere are bad enough, now we want to bug our children? This madness needs to end.
Watched people are not free people.
- veryworried 7y agoDepends who is doing the watching. Wouldn’t want to be watched by some oppressive liberal government trying to change my life by forcing me to “progress” how they want.
- madez 7y agoIf somebody doesn't want to influence you, they don't surveil you. The contraposition is more revealing; If somebody surveils you, then they do it to influence you.
- mattbk1 7y agoThank you for this. It's the natural extension of "you need to track what you want to change" at a personal level.
- SmellyGeekBoy 7y agoWhich country has an "oppressive liberal government" at the moment?
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- sctb 7y agoYou've been posting a lot unsubstantive, uncivil, or flamebait comments. We've asked you already to please stop, and we'll ban the account if you won't. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- tcd 7y agoDoes a child have a smartphone? Congratulations, they're being tracked everywhere they go.
- gregcrv 7y agoSurveillance cameras are already in most infant's rooms and even sometimes cribs.
- huehehue 7y agoThat's a bit of a special case. Infants don't understand the concept of privacy, and you're not ruining a baby's future childhood by keeping an eye on their breathing via private video feed. You can't really educate an infant into not spontaneously dying so they sort of need constant surveillance until they can think and speak on their own.
- fhbdukfrh 7y agoSo you think SIDS can be effectively addressed by continuous visual monitoring? Do you remotely monitor their vitals as well? I debate your point that you are not running their future; you're setting up the foundation for both parent and child that this is normal and to be expected. Also the assumption of privacy is tenuous given this experience and all the other terrible IoT implementations that have come to light
- noarchy 7y ago>Infants don't understand the concept of privacy I'm not sure this is limited to infants, though I realize it isn't an apples-to-apples comparison. People don't realize how they're being tracked by the devices they carry around, or the kinds of data they're willingly giving up. And even if it is explained, it doesn't seem to sink in that there is a wide-open window into their lives through which certain entities can easily peer.
- drugme 7y agoSurveillance cameras are already in most infant's rooms Do you know this is true? Or do you just... "think" it's true?
- djsumdog 7y agoI think this poster is talking about baby monitors. The new ones let you view your kids from any phone or tablet on your account. With many of these devices, that image/audio gets sent to a remote server and then back to your house. Very few keep this information on your local network even if both devices are on the same Wi-Fi. That is very troubling.
- fooblitzky 7y agoI'm just curious how many commenters in this thread have children themselves? It would be interesting to see a poll showing the split between parents/non-parents.