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Has the far left killed anyone lately? Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States#2010%E2%80%93present https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Te

Has the far left killed anyone lately? Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States#2010%E2%80%93present https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States...

DataWorker 7y ago
Yes.
- AWildC182 7y ago
  ......who?
  - reese_john 7y ago
    The entire country of Venezuela for instance?
    - AsyncAwait 7y ago
      The entire country of Venezuela is far from politically unified, unlike what you seem to suggest. In fact the opposition is not particularly more popular over there than Maduro.
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  - wetpaws 7y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States#Left-wing_extremism_and_anti-government https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States...
- justaman 7y ago
  People so often forget the shooting of a sitting congressmen at a baseball game just a short time ago. It didn't last as long in the news cycle as the white nationalist that ran over a woman in Charlottesville did. Granted, nobody died at the baseball game that i'm aware of.
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gfodor 7y ago
came close: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_shooting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_sh...
Joeboy 7y ago
IIUC the Kurdish YPG are anarcho-communists and have killed a lot of ISIS fighters.
- AsyncAwait 7y ago
  Is this supposed to be a negative example? Just asking.
- deleted 7y ago
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deweller 7y ago
...on April 18 [2017], Kori Ali Muhammad, a 39-year-old African-American man, was arrested and charged with killing three people in a shooting in Fresno, California. Police said they believed race was a factor in the murders and Muhammad's social media presence included Black Nationalist posts. Muhammad's father said his son believed he was part of a war between whites and blacks and that "a battle was about to take place."
- AWildC182 7y ago
  Does a nationalist group constitute left wing? Honest question. It's usually associated with right wing activities but ideologically it's kind of its own thing best I can tell.
- sdinsn 7y ago
  How is that far-left?
Pigo 7y ago
The Berkley bike-lock ethics professor. The Las Vegas shooter was definitely left-wing. James Hodgkinson shot at some legilators. Oh, and this little group called Antifa that shuts down anyone they don't like violence.
- iron0013 7y ago
  so... 1) didn't kill anyone 2) not actually left-wing 3) didn't kill anyone 4) didn't kill anyone
  - Pigo 7y ago
    Shot two people in Congress, but yeah, I guess they didn't kill anyone. Way to brush things off.
- happytoexplain 7y ago
  It's telling that this is the extent of a list we can come up with (even if we allow the dubious Vegas claim) compared to the constant, extreme acts of violence, killing, and omnipresent, explicit calls to violence and killing the groups banned engage in.
  - Pigo 7y ago
    There's a lot to the reporting. Jussie Smollett has really highlighted how the media works these stories. Do you think it's a coincidence, really, that the Las Vegas shooter's motivation wasn't dug into that much? There's violence on both sides. Antifa is still much bigger than the Proud Boys ever was, but oddly enough only one group was shut down. Both sides have assholes, why is that so hard for some of you to believe?
firemancoder 7y ago
Yes. It doesn't get as much publicity so few know about it. That's the problem with today's bias, and muting one side.
- AWildC182 7y ago
  Saying yes and rambling about media bias doesn't forward the conversation at all. You have to at least provide examples...
  - firemancoder 7y ago
    As others have mentioned, the Las Vegas shooter is one recent example. Congressman being shot down on a baseball field. Dismissing facts by calling it "rambling" doesn't make it any less true.
    - AWildC182 7y ago
      Then what do you intend to contribute by just saying yes? The congressman is a totally fair example IMO, even though he's technically not in the scope of my question. He was thoroughly covered in the news, however. Las Vegas isn't really a good example in my mind as I haven't seen any credible sources indicating it was a left wing attack or otherwise politically motivated. Either way, he too was obviously covered by the media.
      - firemancoder 7y ago
        You asked a question, and I gave you the answer. If you choose the believe the far left is harmless and has never killed/hurt anyone, there's nothing I can do to stop you. Enjoy your day.
        tomjakubowski 7y ago
        Actually, you purposely spread a baseless lie about the politics of the Vegas shooter.
kypro 7y ago
I don't know about kill, but antifa have certain been violent recently, at least here in the UK. I'd also say that it tends to be the oppressed who resort to violence first because it's there only option. For example, it could be argued the Black Panthers movement required some level of "violence" to make a point. If a group is resorting to violence it tends not to be because they enjoy violence, but because they feel they have no other option. I'm not trying to draw any moral comparisons here, just want to point out that you don't need to be violent when the state and ruling class are on your side. There's simply no need when the state (or in this case, private corporations) will restrict your opponent's freedoms for you.
- AnimalMuppet 7y ago
  OK, but it does not follow that those who resort to violence must therefore be the oppressed. They could just as easily be the oppressors, or former oppressors who resent their loss of power and privilege. The KKK, for example, was not because white people were oppressed, but because they had lost their ability to oppress through legally-accepted channels.

Has the far left killed anyone lately? Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States#2010%E2%80%93present https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States...

DataWorker 7y ago

Yes.

AWildC182 7y ago
......who?
- reese_john 7y ago
  The entire country of Venezuela for instance?
  - AsyncAwait 7y ago
    The entire country of Venezuela is far from politically unified, unlike what you seem to suggest. In fact the opposition is not particularly more popular over there than Maduro.
- deleted 7y ago
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- wetpaws 7y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States#Left-wing_extremism_and_anti-government https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States...
justaman 7y ago
People so often forget the shooting of a sitting congressmen at a baseball game just a short time ago. It didn't last as long in the news cycle as the white nationalist that ran over a woman in Charlottesville did. Granted, nobody died at the baseball game that i'm aware of.

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gfodor 7y ago

came close: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_shooting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_sh...

Joeboy 7y ago

IIUC the Kurdish YPG are anarcho-communists and have killed a lot of ISIS fighters.

AsyncAwait 7y ago
Is this supposed to be a negative example? Just asking.
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deweller 7y ago

...on April 18 [2017], Kori Ali Muhammad, a 39-year-old African-American man, was arrested and charged with killing three people in a shooting in Fresno, California. Police said they believed race was a factor in the murders and Muhammad's social media presence included Black Nationalist posts. Muhammad's father said his son believed he was part of a war between whites and blacks and that "a battle was about to take place."

AWildC182 7y ago
Does a nationalist group constitute left wing? Honest question. It's usually associated with right wing activities but ideologically it's kind of its own thing best I can tell.
sdinsn 7y ago
How is that far-left?

Pigo 7y ago

The Berkley bike-lock ethics professor. The Las Vegas shooter was definitely left-wing. James Hodgkinson shot at some legilators. Oh, and this little group called Antifa that shuts down anyone they don't like violence.

iron0013 7y ago
so... 1) didn't kill anyone 2) not actually left-wing 3) didn't kill anyone 4) didn't kill anyone
- Pigo 7y ago
  Shot two people in Congress, but yeah, I guess they didn't kill anyone. Way to brush things off.
happytoexplain 7y ago
It's telling that this is the extent of a list we can come up with (even if we allow the dubious Vegas claim) compared to the constant, extreme acts of violence, killing, and omnipresent, explicit calls to violence and killing the groups banned engage in.
- Pigo 7y ago
  There's a lot to the reporting. Jussie Smollett has really highlighted how the media works these stories. Do you think it's a coincidence, really, that the Las Vegas shooter's motivation wasn't dug into that much? There's violence on both sides. Antifa is still much bigger than the Proud Boys ever was, but oddly enough only one group was shut down. Both sides have assholes, why is that so hard for some of you to believe?

firemancoder 7y ago

Yes. It doesn't get as much publicity so few know about it. That's the problem with today's bias, and muting one side.

AWildC182 7y ago
Saying yes and rambling about media bias doesn't forward the conversation at all. You have to at least provide examples...
- firemancoder 7y ago
  As others have mentioned, the Las Vegas shooter is one recent example. Congressman being shot down on a baseball field. Dismissing facts by calling it "rambling" doesn't make it any less true.
  - AWildC182 7y ago
    Then what do you intend to contribute by just saying yes? The congressman is a totally fair example IMO, even though he's technically not in the scope of my question. He was thoroughly covered in the news, however. Las Vegas isn't really a good example in my mind as I haven't seen any credible sources indicating it was a left wing attack or otherwise politically motivated. Either way, he too was obviously covered by the media.
    - firemancoder 7y ago
      You asked a question, and I gave you the answer. If you choose the believe the far left is harmless and has never killed/hurt anyone, there's nothing I can do to stop you. Enjoy your day.
      - tomjakubowski 7y ago
        Actually, you purposely spread a baseless lie about the politics of the Vegas shooter.

kypro 7y ago

I don't know about kill, but antifa have certain been violent recently, at least here in the UK. I'd also say that it tends to be the oppressed who resort to violence first because it's there only option. For example, it could be argued the Black Panthers movement required some level of "violence" to make a point. If a group is resorting to violence it tends not to be because they enjoy violence, but because they feel they have no other option. I'm not trying to draw any moral comparisons here, just want to point out that you don't need to be violent when the state and ruling class are on your side. There's simply no need when the state (or in this case, private corporations) will restrict your opponent's freedoms for you.

AnimalMuppet 7y ago
OK, but it does not follow that those who resort to violence must therefore be the oppressed. They could just as easily be the oppressors, or former oppressors who resent their loss of power and privilege. The KKK, for example, was not because white people were oppressed, but because they had lost their ability to oppress through legally-accepted channels.