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XFCE is great but OSTree really is the future. I don't see any reason for still using the dinosaur Ubuntu in a world where one can have Fedora Silverblue.

westmeal 8y ago
Isn't ostree for upgrades? Its not a DE like XFCE right?
4thaccount 8y ago
As someone without any knowledge of OSTree or Fedora Silverblue, can you go into more detail?
oblio 8y ago
What does OSTree have to do with XFCE? OSTree: https://ostree.readthedocs.io/en/latest/manual/introduction/ https://ostree.readthedocs.io/en/latest/manual/introduction/ -> The underlying architecture might be summarized as "git for operating system binaries" vs XFCE: https://www.xfce.org/ https://www.xfce.org/ -> Xfce is a lightweight desktop environment for UNIX-like operating systems. It aims to be fast and low on system resources, while still being visually appealing and user friendly. Also that Silverblue thing, assuming it's this site: https://silverblue.fedoraproject.org/ https://silverblue.fedoraproject.org/ doesn't really do a good job at explaining what it is...
- danieldk 8y ago
  The charitable reading is that they meant 'Xubuntu'. They probably argue that Xubuntu is nice, but not the future because it does not do atomic upgrades with rollbacks. (I largely agree that OSTree-based systems are better, but Ubuntu is so popular that it is unlikely that Silverblue replaces it soon. By the way, Silverblue fans should look at Nix ;).)
imglorp 8y ago
Thank you for pointing out an interesting project. Ubuntu has the full force of upstream Debian behind it, while Centos/Fedora has Red Hat upstream, which just got bought by Oracle. Is anyone in the Centos/Fedora ecosystem concerned about the sale? What happens if management simply quits making public RH streams available? What if the lawyers come out as usual?
- jraph 8y ago
  Hasn't Red Hat been bought by IBM?
  - imglorp 8y ago
    Yes, you're right. I misrecalled. Thanks.

westmeal 8y ago

Isn't ostree for upgrades? Its not a DE like XFCE right?

4thaccount 8y ago

As someone without any knowledge of OSTree or Fedora Silverblue, can you go into more detail?

oblio 8y ago

What does OSTree have to do with XFCE? OSTree: https://ostree.readthedocs.io/en/latest/manual/introduction/ https://ostree.readthedocs.io/en/latest/manual/introduction/ -> The underlying architecture might be summarized as "git for operating system binaries" vs XFCE: https://www.xfce.org/ https://www.xfce.org/ -> Xfce is a lightweight desktop environment for UNIX-like operating systems. It aims to be fast and low on system resources, while still being visually appealing and user friendly. Also that Silverblue thing, assuming it's this site: https://silverblue.fedoraproject.org/ https://silverblue.fedoraproject.org/ doesn't really do a good job at explaining what it is...

danieldk 8y ago
The charitable reading is that they meant 'Xubuntu'. They probably argue that Xubuntu is nice, but not the future because it does not do atomic upgrades with rollbacks. (I largely agree that OSTree-based systems are better, but Ubuntu is so popular that it is unlikely that Silverblue replaces it soon. By the way, Silverblue fans should look at Nix ;).)

imglorp 8y ago

Thank you for pointing out an interesting project. Ubuntu has the full force of upstream Debian behind it, while Centos/Fedora has Red Hat upstream, which just got bought by Oracle. Is anyone in the Centos/Fedora ecosystem concerned about the sale? What happens if management simply quits making public RH streams available? What if the lawyers come out as usual?

jraph 8y ago
Hasn't Red Hat been bought by IBM?
- imglorp 8y ago
  Yes, you're right. I misrecalled. Thanks.