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Vertus were always intended as ostentatious, bling products, rather than fantastic phones. They were mid-range models covered in gold and diamonds etc. A Ferr

by NLips 7y ago

Vertus were always intended as ostentatious, bling products, rather than fantastic phones. They were mid-range models covered in gold and diamonds etc. A Ferrari is meant to be ostentatious _and_ a great car (not withstanding pratcicality or cost).

okket 7y ago
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- lm28469 7y ago
  It won't transport your luggages but it'll transport your soul. /s
- saiya-jin 7y ago
  A great car can be a car that simply puts a smile on your face due to sheer engagement and fun of driving it. It stirs your passions. And Ferrari here delivers. Practicality, costs etc. doesn't enter the equation at all.
  - JohnFen 7y ago
    That's an odd metric, as it would only apply to people who love cars rather than people who use cars for practical purposes. I don't think I've ever driven or ridden in a car that actually put a smile on my face (and I've ridden in several very high-end cars, including Ferraris). But that's to be expected, as I'm not a car guy.
Aaargh20318 7y ago
> Vertus were always intended as ostentatious, bling products, rather than fantastic phones. They were mid-range models covered in gold and diamonds etc. I never understood this. If you're going to make a ridiculously expensive phone by taking an existing model and covering it in gold and diamonds, then why not start out with a high-end model ? It's not going to have any significant impact on the price anyway.
- umvi 7y ago
  Probably same reason Dell's high end XPS laptops use low end absolute crap stock parts on the inside (no name Wifi/SSD cards) - to maximize margins as much as possible?
  - FussyZeus 7y ago
    ^ Bingo. People who buy a Vertu aren't buying it to use it, they're buying it to say they have one. Could have the guts of a Nokia tracfone, wouldn't matter. The guts aren't the important part.
paulmd 7y ago
> A Ferrari is meant to be ostentatious _and_ a great car (not withstanding pratcicality or cost). Absolutely not. Ferraris are renowned for being shop queens/needing absurdly frequent servicing, which probably needs to be done at an official dealership. Also, often you need to remove the motor to do basic service (the car is designed for this). eg see discussions in this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/Justrolledintotheshop/comments/ba3rzp/its_got_a_ferrari_motor_and_awd/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Justrolledintotheshop/comments/ba3r... Maybe a better example would have been Leica or something, which at least are very nicely engineered cameras and can run for more than a few months without a dealer service.
- FussyZeus 7y ago
  I mean if you own a Ferrari and it doesn't need frequent servicing, I'd question why the hell you bought the thing if you didn't intend to drive it as it's designed to be driven.
  - mveety 7y ago
    Because most people aren’t car people and buy it to brag to their friends or so. It’s more important that they look cool. Also, to be fair, it’s not a big deal to remove the engine and it makes a lot of work much easier.
    - londons_explore 7y ago
      Most people who buy a Ferrari have a couple of other supercars and a garage and mechanic on staff. The frequent servicing doesn't bother them.
  - jacquesm 7y ago
    The bulk of the 'supercars' for sale here in NL has absurdly low mileage compared to their age.
    - semi-extrinsic 7y ago

by NLips 7y ago

okket 7y ago

lm28469 7y ago
It won't transport your luggages but it'll transport your soul. /s
saiya-jin 7y ago
A great car can be a car that simply puts a smile on your face due to sheer engagement and fun of driving it. It stirs your passions. And Ferrari here delivers. Practicality, costs etc. doesn't enter the equation at all.
- JohnFen 7y ago
  That's an odd metric, as it would only apply to people who love cars rather than people who use cars for practical purposes. I don't think I've ever driven or ridden in a car that actually put a smile on my face (and I've ridden in several very high-end cars, including Ferraris). But that's to be expected, as I'm not a car guy.

Aaargh20318 7y ago

> Vertus were always intended as ostentatious, bling products, rather than fantastic phones. They were mid-range models covered in gold and diamonds etc. I never understood this. If you're going to make a ridiculously expensive phone by taking an existing model and covering it in gold and diamonds, then why not start out with a high-end model ? It's not going to have any significant impact on the price anyway.

umvi 7y ago
Probably same reason Dell's high end XPS laptops use low end absolute crap stock parts on the inside (no name Wifi/SSD cards) - to maximize margins as much as possible?
- FussyZeus 7y ago
  ^ Bingo. People who buy a Vertu aren't buying it to use it, they're buying it to say they have one. Could have the guts of a Nokia tracfone, wouldn't matter. The guts aren't the important part.

paulmd 7y ago

> A Ferrari is meant to be ostentatious _and_ a great car (not withstanding pratcicality or cost). Absolutely not. Ferraris are renowned for being shop queens/needing absurdly frequent servicing, which probably needs to be done at an official dealership. Also, often you need to remove the motor to do basic service (the car is designed for this). eg see discussions in this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/Justrolledintotheshop/comments/ba3rzp/its_got_a_ferrari_motor_and_awd/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Justrolledintotheshop/comments/ba3r... Maybe a better example would have been Leica or something, which at least are very nicely engineered cameras and can run for more than a few months without a dealer service.

FussyZeus 7y ago
I mean if you own a Ferrari and it doesn't need frequent servicing, I'd question why the hell you bought the thing if you didn't intend to drive it as it's designed to be driven.
- mveety 7y ago
  Because most people aren’t car people and buy it to brag to their friends or so. It’s more important that they look cool. Also, to be fair, it’s not a big deal to remove the engine and it makes a lot of work much easier.
  - londons_explore 7y ago
    Most people who buy a Ferrari have a couple of other supercars and a garage and mechanic on staff. The frequent servicing doesn't bother them.
- jacquesm 7y ago
  The bulk of the 'supercars' for sale here in NL has absurdly low mileage compared to their age.
  - semi-extrinsic 7y ago