Actually my mom almost died from vaccination, her arm got swollen up and she must have been close to some kind of allergic shock. (Must have been in the 60s - o

Actually my mom almost died from vaccination, her arm got swollen up and she must have been close to some kind of allergic shock. (Must have been in the 60s - one can only speculate for the reasons, obviously hygiene wasn't that far back then/perhaps it was a 'living' vaccine.) So luckily I did get all basic vaccinations as a young child but when my parents divorced, visits to the doctors happened only in case of emergency if you will. There was a deep distrust towards doctors because of this traumatic experience. And yes, I agree, the discussions have become useless. In fact I would go so far to say that in middle-class society people avoid discussions and at best just agree which is actually meaning a slow death for democracy. Those who still continue to do discussions end up doing these in closed circles apart from public discourse, that's tragic and easy loot for alt-rights/anti-vaxxers who can then claim that discourse isn't working because we didn't practise it properly. From a philosophical standpoint I think foundations of all knowledge must be observed and talked about.