3 ms·

When you choose to not vaccinate, you're no longer talking about just your life. You're talking about the lives of those around you. You cannot frame the argum

When you choose to not vaccinate, you're no longer talking about just your life. You're talking about the lives of those around you. You cannot frame the argument solely in terms of 'your own life' unless we're talking about vaccinations for diseases that don't spread across the population. The flu may be milder than most diseases, but the flu can and does kill people. Including those that are young and healthy. People give you absolute hell for it because it's a selfish line of thought if you don't actually have a good excuse for not vaccinating. And the anti-vaxx movement more often than not does not have a good excuse.

DoreenMichele 8y ago
So it's okay for you to not vaccinate because you have a good excuse. It's not okay for me to skip a historically non mandatory vaccine, nor to advocate for my own right to protect my own life and health. This is exactly the line of reasoning I'm criticizing. This is the type of ugly argument that radicalizes people with serious health issues who find it beneficial to not vaccinate, but don't have "the right excuse" to make that okay for them. You were all up in arms at the idea that I was talking about you. You are still being attacking when it's my life on the line here. There's no actual logical consistency here.
- fzeroracer 8y ago
  Okay then, let's establish a baseline: What, exactly then, is your reason for skipping vaccination? What is your exact reason? I've given mine for why I have had to avoid some vaccines in the past. Because as I've established above, people who cannot get vaccines for legitimate health reasons (such as allergic reactions or compromised immune systems) are already protected by the system that exists. Otherwise if you're denying vaccines for ideological reasons: You are threatening the lives of other people for no good reason.
  - DoreenMichele 8y ago
    I've already stated my reason above: people who were helping to save my life recommended against them and skipping them has proven beneficial. I'm supposed to be dead. Much of the world has a very big problem with my rude failure to die on schedule from a condition so bad it's classified as a dread disease. Your further insistence that I owe you some kind of explanation for my personal medical choice flies in the face of HIPAA, something I had annual training in when I had a job with a Fortune 500 company.

DoreenMichele 8y ago

So it's okay for you to not vaccinate because you have a good excuse. It's not okay for me to skip a historically non mandatory vaccine, nor to advocate for my own right to protect my own life and health. This is exactly the line of reasoning I'm criticizing. This is the type of ugly argument that radicalizes people with serious health issues who find it beneficial to not vaccinate, but don't have "the right excuse" to make that okay for them. You were all up in arms at the idea that I was talking about you. You are still being attacking when it's my life on the line here. There's no actual logical consistency here.

fzeroracer 8y ago
Okay then, let's establish a baseline: What, exactly then, is your reason for skipping vaccination? What is your exact reason? I've given mine for why I have had to avoid some vaccines in the past. Because as I've established above, people who cannot get vaccines for legitimate health reasons (such as allergic reactions or compromised immune systems) are already protected by the system that exists. Otherwise if you're denying vaccines for ideological reasons: You are threatening the lives of other people for no good reason.
- DoreenMichele 8y ago
  I've already stated my reason above: people who were helping to save my life recommended against them and skipping them has proven beneficial. I'm supposed to be dead. Much of the world has a very big problem with my rude failure to die on schedule from a condition so bad it's classified as a dread disease. Your further insistence that I owe you some kind of explanation for my personal medical choice flies in the face of HIPAA, something I had annual training in when I had a job with a Fortune 500 company.