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> how many people will have dedicated gaming consoles vs streaming online.. Why not try playing on a PC then? No need for anything 'dedicated'.

by deogeo 8y ago

WestCoastJustin 8y ago
You still need an expensive GPU and constantly messing with drivers and upgrading your system. I guess we'll just have to see what happens but this seems like an inevitable evolution.
- deogeo 8y ago
  Upgrade cycles are slowing, and you only need to keep up if you want the most cutting edge graphics on AAA games - most everything else will run just fine on old mid-range cards. And having Windows automatically install the right drivers seems like even more of an 'inevitable evolution'.
davidjnelson 8y ago
Pc gaming is awesome. Not everyone can afford it though. If stadia can actually get low latency 60fps ultra settings graphics on low end hardware that will change everything. One issue here though is exclusives. Many of the best games are console only, or even ps4 only. I don’t see how Stadia could overcome that, but I guess we’ll see.
- baud147258 8y ago
  Is it possible to get 60fps with current network speeds?
  - deogeo 8y ago
    More importantly, is it possible to get the responsiveness of 60 fps with current network latency.
- badsectoracula 8y ago
  Note that PC gaming isn't just the ultra expensive 2080ti powered desktops, if anything people using those are a bit of a loud show-off minority (just check the Steam metrics for a much more realistic image). My current computer costs around 450 euros, monitor and peripherals included, is based on a 2400 Ryzen APU and i can run most recent games at mid-quality settings at 1366x768 (which is the native resolution of my monitor, bought explicitly because i prefer low DPI in GUI and for having better performance in games without the blurry upscale that i'd need with a 1080p monitor - note BTW that i got a decent quality VA monitor for better dark colors, there were cheaper options including some 1080p ones if you really want that). Of course this computer will need an upgrade at some point, but even if i decide that i'll only play games released up until today, i'll still have years worth of gaming :-P. Of course that doesn't mean consoles aren't often cheaper (although the games are MUCH more expensive, especially if you do not want to wait for a while for the prices to drop and/or deals) or that Stadia couldn't be cheaper. Just pointing out that PC gaming isn't the ultra expensive thing people often associate it with (and a PC can do stuff beyond playing games while has the vastest game library of all platforms).

> how many people will have dedicated gaming consoles vs streaming online.. Why not try playing on a PC then? No need for anything 'dedicated'.

by deogeo 8y ago

> how many people will have dedicated gaming consoles vs streaming online.. Why not try playing on a PC then? No need for anything 'dedicated'.

WestCoastJustin 8y ago

You still need an expensive GPU and constantly messing with drivers and upgrading your system. I guess we'll just have to see what happens but this seems like an inevitable evolution.

deogeo 8y ago
Upgrade cycles are slowing, and you only need to keep up if you want the most cutting edge graphics on AAA games - most everything else will run just fine on old mid-range cards. And having Windows automatically install the right drivers seems like even more of an 'inevitable evolution'.

davidjnelson 8y ago

Pc gaming is awesome. Not everyone can afford it though. If stadia can actually get low latency 60fps ultra settings graphics on low end hardware that will change everything. One issue here though is exclusives. Many of the best games are console only, or even ps4 only. I don’t see how Stadia could overcome that, but I guess we’ll see.

baud147258 8y ago
Is it possible to get 60fps with current network speeds?
- deogeo 8y ago
  More importantly, is it possible to get the responsiveness of 60 fps with current network latency.
badsectoracula 8y ago
Note that PC gaming isn't just the ultra expensive 2080ti powered desktops, if anything people using those are a bit of a loud show-off minority (just check the Steam metrics for a much more realistic image). My current computer costs around 450 euros, monitor and peripherals included, is based on a 2400 Ryzen APU and i can run most recent games at mid-quality settings at 1366x768 (which is the native resolution of my monitor, bought explicitly because i prefer low DPI in GUI and for having better performance in games without the blurry upscale that i'd need with a 1080p monitor - note BTW that i got a decent quality VA monitor for better dark colors, there were cheaper options including some 1080p ones if you really want that). Of course this computer will need an upgrade at some point, but even if i decide that i'll only play games released up until today, i'll still have years worth of gaming :-P. Of course that doesn't mean consoles aren't often cheaper (although the games are MUCH more expensive, especially if you do not want to wait for a while for the prices to drop and/or deals) or that Stadia couldn't be cheaper. Just pointing out that PC gaming isn't the ultra expensive thing people often associate it with (and a PC can do stuff beyond playing games while has the vastest game library of all platforms).