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> Throwing it out there—when I'm dead, you are totally allowed to resuscitate my brain. Better than being dead. Are you comfortable with the possibility that t

> Throwing it out there—when I'm dead, you are totally allowed to resuscitate my brain. Better than being dead. Are you comfortable with the possibility that those who are reviving you might not be doing it for your benefit?

Wowfunhappy 8y ago
I think so. Still better than being dead. (If they're explicitly trying to cause me pain, that would be a no.)
- Majestic121 8y ago
  That's the point, with this kind of technology, one can imagine unlimited tortures without possibility of dying to be relieved. And the technology is here, it's only a matter of time before this kind of abuse starts happening. I'm not saying we should not continue researching this, as the possibilities are endless, but let's not put the pitfalls under the rug
- ganeshkrishnan 8y ago
  There won't be any pain as brains don't have nerve endings. But you won't have any other senses too. Just pitch blank, deathly silence, floating for eternity.
  - hackinthebochs 8y ago
    Your brain can't hurt, but presumably a phantom body could be made to hurt by providing the right neural stimulation.
  - coldtea 8y ago
    Nerve endings receive pain. The brain "feels it". So it can easily be made to feel pain -- just pass in the same signals the nerves would have.
  - bdamm 8y ago
    "floating", "silence", and "black" are sensory states. There's no assurance that a brain in a pool would feel any of these. It's hard to know what a brain will project as it attempts to construct a reality matching that for which it evolved.
    - Wowfunhappy 8y ago
      But it's reasonable to use these terms since they're the best approximations/guesses we have. Also, people who become blind later in life often describe it as "black", so I think it's reasonable to assume that's how the brain would interpret lack of sense.
- fmihaila 8y ago
  > (If they're explicitly trying to cause me pain, that would be a no.) That is my point. I imagine that, if this was a possibility, quite a lot of people would be ok (or even demand it) to make available "150 years after natural death" sentences, so that they can apply it to their newly deposed dictator. Then, once the new rulers become entrenched in power and begin to like it, they can start using it on their political opponents. Prisoner exchanges between warring countries could become quite interesting. Quite likely, some people might feel inclined to hang on to their loved ones forever. Remember Terri Schiavo [1]? Feel free to imagine more interesting scenarios. If you don't start to shudder, you're just not thinking big enough. You can watch this Black Mirror episode [2] to get you started. This gives a whole new meaning to the expression "killer application". [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terri_Schiavo_case https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terri_Schiavo_case [2] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5058700/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5058700/
- jerf 8y ago
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFe9wiDfb0E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFe9wiDfb0E (This is a relevant YouTube video to the discussion, not spam.)
- deleted 8y ago
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Wowfunhappy 8y ago

I think so. Still better than being dead. (If they're explicitly trying to cause me pain, that would be a no.)

Majestic121 8y ago
That's the point, with this kind of technology, one can imagine unlimited tortures without possibility of dying to be relieved. And the technology is here, it's only a matter of time before this kind of abuse starts happening. I'm not saying we should not continue researching this, as the possibilities are endless, but let's not put the pitfalls under the rug
ganeshkrishnan 8y ago
There won't be any pain as brains don't have nerve endings. But you won't have any other senses too. Just pitch blank, deathly silence, floating for eternity.
- hackinthebochs 8y ago
  Your brain can't hurt, but presumably a phantom body could be made to hurt by providing the right neural stimulation.
- coldtea 8y ago
  Nerve endings receive pain. The brain "feels it". So it can easily be made to feel pain -- just pass in the same signals the nerves would have.
- bdamm 8y ago
  "floating", "silence", and "black" are sensory states. There's no assurance that a brain in a pool would feel any of these. It's hard to know what a brain will project as it attempts to construct a reality matching that for which it evolved.
  - Wowfunhappy 8y ago
    But it's reasonable to use these terms since they're the best approximations/guesses we have. Also, people who become blind later in life often describe it as "black", so I think it's reasonable to assume that's how the brain would interpret lack of sense.
fmihaila 8y ago
> (If they're explicitly trying to cause me pain, that would be a no.) That is my point. I imagine that, if this was a possibility, quite a lot of people would be ok (or even demand it) to make available "150 years after natural death" sentences, so that they can apply it to their newly deposed dictator. Then, once the new rulers become entrenched in power and begin to like it, they can start using it on their political opponents. Prisoner exchanges between warring countries could become quite interesting. Quite likely, some people might feel inclined to hang on to their loved ones forever. Remember Terri Schiavo [1]? Feel free to imagine more interesting scenarios. If you don't start to shudder, you're just not thinking big enough. You can watch this Black Mirror episode [2] to get you started. This gives a whole new meaning to the expression "killer application". [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terri_Schiavo_case https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terri_Schiavo_case [2] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5058700/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5058700/
jerf 8y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFe9wiDfb0E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFe9wiDfb0E (This is a relevant YouTube video to the discussion, not spam.)
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